Biggest DB in rock music today - has to be Bono.

Actually, I'd like to end the thread, if I may......

I don't care for U2, and Bono really irritates me these days.

I'm glad we're adult enough on here to NOT resort to name-calling, or shitting all over someone's religion, politics, etc....... (well, I did call Bono a twat, a cunt, and several other things during my rages, didn't I?)......anyway......my rant's over.

You guys are good.

If I didn't feel free to share my opinion, and felt able to agree/disagree respectfully with others on here, I wouldn't have posted it, you know?

Good job.
 
Actually, I'd like to end the thread, if I may......

I don't care for U2, and Bono really irritates me these days.

I'm glad we're adult enough on here to NOT resort to name-calling, or shitting all over someone's religion, politics, etc....... (well, I did call Bono a twat, a cunt, and several other things during my rages, didn't I?)......anyway......my rant's over.

You guys are good.

If I didn't feel free to share my opinion, and agree/disagree with others on here, I wouldn't have posted it, you know?

Good job.

Ditto.

Totally understandable if you don't want to participate in this thread any longer.
 
I disagree with this and, as I said in that post, I feel that equivocating was disastrous.

As voters, we have to deal with reality. I can understand Howie taking that same stance (voting third-party) since he lives in a state that's overwhelmingly blue. But I'm also aware of the fact that lots of people in other states took that same position, and look where it got us.

I also believe that HRC would have been, at the very least, a very competent president and not, to borrow a phrase, "a disaster".

At any rate, if you've followed my posts in political discussions over the years, I've long been an advocate of instant runoff voting. Which would probably have nipped our current conversation in the bud.
This is not equivocating, this is voting. I voted the way that I felt was best for the country, and that was that neither was even within sniffing distance of being capable of performing in a competent manner. Equivocating is saying: "Well, both are bad choices but I am going to vote for the least smelly pile of shit." Voting for one or the other in the last election was tantamount to settling for the pile of shit that smelled better.

We get Trumps and HRC's when we settle for the pile of shit that smells the best. When we stop voting for Trumps and HRC's is when we start getting people who are the Most Capable of doing the job as opposed to the one's who the parties feel will appeal to the base animal instincts of the voters.
 
This is not equivocating, this is voting. I voted the way that I felt was best for the country, and that was that neither was even within sniffing distance of being capable of performing in a competent manner. Equivocating is saying: "Well, both are bad choices but I am going to vote for the least smelly pile of shit." Voting for one or the other in the last election was tantamount to settling for the pile of shit that smelled better.

We get Trumps and HRC's when we settle for the pile of shit that smells the best. When we stop voting for Trumps and HRC's is when we start getting people who are the Most Capable of doing the job as opposed to the one's who the parties feel will appeal to the base animal instincts of the voters.

Did either party have anyone as capable as HRC? I'd like to see that list. There are plenty of people that could do the job, Bernie, O'Malley, on the Dems for sure...DEFINITELY Biden. I have a harder time seeing any capability on the GOP side given the state of the Congress...so not decent candidates there. Maybe some Governors, but who.

Objectively, Hillary was one of the most qualified candidates to ever run for office. That fact people bought into the propaganda that the GOP and/or their mouth pieces have been spewing for close to three decades, doesn't change that fact.

But, I'm still cool with Bono. :thu:
 
Did either party have anyone as capable as HRC? I'd like to see that list. There are plenty of people that could do the job, Bernie, O'Malley, on the Dems for sure...DEFINITELY Biden. I have a harder time seeing any capability on the GOP side given the state of the Congress...so not decent candidates there. Maybe some Governors, but who.

Objectively, Hillary was one of the most qualified candidates to ever run for office. That fact people bought into the propaganda that the GOP and/or their mouth pieces have been spewing for close to three decades, doesn't change that fact.

But, I'm still cool with Bono. :thu:

You know who else was one of the most qualified candidates ever? NIXON.
 
You know who else was one of the most qualified candidates ever? NIXON.

But Hillary has none of his paranoia. Unfortunately, she also lacks the ability to relate to regular people...not unlike nor nearly as badly as Trump.

Listening to some U2...Bono's voice is amazeballs.
 
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"We get Trumps and HRC's when we settle for the pile of shit that smells the best. "

This is simply unintelligent.
1. Trump is a danger. That is not "politics," it's well beyond it. He is a menace to our society.
2. Bad candidates don't arise from compromise, they have arisen from lack of compromise. If you do not understand this, you may want to look into it further. Our primary system is geared to reward either huge-money candidates, or fringe candidates, or those who are both.
 
Me? I'm cool....Can I have a paycheck, please?"

rolleyes1

He doesn't received a paycheck that is handed to him. He and his band sell their art to willing buyers.

He can say what he wants. So can you. I support your right not to agree with him. I support my right to think you are wrong. I would still buy you a beer if you were in town.
 
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Thanks.

As much as I hate to admit it, Howie is right.

You pays your money and you takes your choice.

I guess I just outgrew U2, and it pisses me off that they're re-hashing a seminal record from 30 years ago (that I fully supported at the time) as a political statement so Bono can caterwaul to the masses about what America is doing wrong, while holding out his hand for a paycheck.

I find it distasteful.
I find it more distasteful that the same criticisms apply 30 years later. The album was political then and is political now, and still applies. Unfortunately.
 
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