Are you losing your musical, spiritual, energy?

John Watt

Banned
Yeah... life on earth. They say over half the people conceived die before the age of five.
They also say everyone is born singing, but most lose that ability by the age of five.
And almost all of nature sings.

What has playing music meant to you, and have you been losing it, maintaining it, or expanding,
not necessarily higher, but wider?
Music! We dam mighty rivers and use nuclear power to generate the electricity,
and look at what the world of musical instruments has become...
but where does all that musical energy go?

I'm getting pickier the longer I go.

as always, John Watt
 
Kerouc, that's nice to hear, even if it isn't musical.
I see it taking a little extra effort to think and respond to this thread topic,
so let me congratulate you for being the first.

I've had a lot of experiences with musical energy in my life,
and would like to get into what it takes to upgrade yourself,
while having help dealing with the degradations.

Just like saying prostitution is the world's oldest profession,
when it historically can't be,
saying you're starting a band to meet girls and raunch out is another social cliche.
I think everyone here who plays enough to play would agree there are deeper satisfactions,
even if it takes you to a lonely, meditative place.

as always, John Watt
 
Musical energy requires PASSION to flow...and passion is quickly becoming a precious and RARE commodity...we are no longer encouraged to be passionate about anything...the scene in Pink Floyd's "The Wall" where the children are dropped into the meat grinder is closer to home than I like to think, sometimes...

I find that my passion for music is deeply connected to my own level of happiness and satisfaction with my everyday life...right now I'm going through some harder times, job loss, financial struggles, depression...and my passion for music is at a pretty low state...
 
Help!I'maRock! C'mon, you same-text typist you... for sure looking towards me, from Ontario, and you, The States,
would make you feel lonely too. You're used to all the attention of the world coming at you,
not abandoning your Americaness for the rest of the world,
if you want to think that way.

Either that, or I was hoping for more than just the quick, cheap shots.

I just saw jelloman's reply, nice, and one I'd like to get into,
but there's less than a minute left for me here on this system.
Gotta go... and that's a downer from how I feel here.

as always, John Watt
 
Help!I'maRock! C'mon, you same-text typist you... for sure looking towards me, from Ontario, and you, The States,
would make you feel lonely too. You're used to all the attention of the world coming at you,
not abandoning your Americaness for the rest of the world,
if you want to think that way.

Either that, or I was hoping for more than just the quick, cheap shots.

I just saw jelloman's reply, nice, and one I'd like to get into,
but there's less than a minute left for me here on this system.
Gotta go... and that's a downer from how I feel here.

as always, John Watt

i think it's time to change the tin foil that your hat is made from.
 
Kerouc, that's nice to hear, even if it isn't musical.
I see it taking a little extra effort to think and respond to this thread topic,
so let me congratulate you for being the first.

I've had a lot of experiences with musical energy in my life,
and would like to get into what it takes to upgrade yourself,
while having help dealing with the degradations.

Just like saying prostitution is the world's oldest profession,
when it historically can't be,
saying you're starting a band to meet girls and raunch out is another social cliche.
I think everyone here who plays enough to play would agree there are deeper satisfactions,
even if it takes you to a lonely, meditative place.

as always, John Watt

Why can't prostitution have been the oldest profession?
 
Kerouc, that's nice to hear, even if it isn't musical.
I see it taking a little extra effort to think and respond to this thread topic,
so let me congratulate you for being the first.

I've had a lot of experiences with musical energy in my life,
and would like to get into what it takes to upgrade yourself,
while having help dealing with the degradations.

Just like saying prostitution is the world's oldest profession,
when it historically can't be,
saying you're starting a band to meet girls and raunch out is another social cliche.
I think everyone here who plays enough to play would agree there are deeper satisfactions,
even if it takes you to a lonely, meditative place.

as always, John Watt

I sing like a frog, but I have some partial (still working on a lead) guitar music that these words with minor changes would fit very well.

May I have your permission to run with them?

Norm
 
You make me feel better about my own tenuous grasp on sanity.

only after reading your posts.

:lol:


I think Jelloman's post is on to something though. I know I used to put a lot more into music when I was younger... but now I'm stuck in a rubbish 9 - 5 job, bills to pay, etc. etc. I just don't seem to have the same drive to create music as I used to. I get home from work and pretty much just fall into a coma until the next morning. I still love playing and writing, but I just don't seem to have the same drive or creative spark I did however many years ago.
 
:lol:
I think Jelloman's post is on to something though. I know I used to put a lot more into music when I was younger... but now I'm stuck in a rubbish 9 - 5 job, bills to pay, etc. etc. I just don't seem to have the same drive to create music as I used to. I get home from work and pretty much just fall into a coma until the next morning. I still love playing and writing, but I just don't seem to have the same drive or creative spark I did however many years ago.

In many ways, I totally agree with you. Family life, work and coaching leave me little time to explore, but over the past few years, I've made myself take the time. Usually it's late at night. Tonight I went into my garage/studio at around 10 pm. Just got done. I'm feeling totally refreshed from the experience!

As for the OP's original question, I was in a rut of sorts for about a year after I recorded my first album. Just couldn't get any inspiration, so I pulled back from writing for awhile, and just concentrated on playing and taking a few lessons. That really helped me change my perspective, and I was able to get the creative spark back. The most important thing for me was to gig as much as I could given my schedule so I always have somewhere to play - it also helps to get paid. :)
 
Yeah... life on earth. They say over half the people conceived die before the age of five.
They also say everyone is born singing, but most lose that ability by the age of five.
And almost all of nature sings.

What has playing music meant to you, and have you been losing it, maintaining it, or expanding,
not necessarily higher, but wider?
Music! We dam mighty rivers and use nuclear power to generate the electricity,
and look at what the world of musical instruments has become...
but where does all that musical energy go?

I'm getting pickier the longer I go.

as always, John Watt

Are you still comin' down off your big 4/20 smoke out?
 
This topic is very serious for me, a big part of my life. I never did get married or have children and playing guitar full time, travelling across Canada, living in big cities, kept me playing guitar and it's music that opens me for the doors to new travels or personal success. While I tried these forums a year ago when other Harmony Central musicians recommended Mark Wein, the recent collapse of Harmony Central has made this domain more viable for finding diverse, and global commentary. It's more than nice to see some of my favorite characters putting it out here.

jaxn slim! You're questioning my statement that prostitution, despite the cliche, is not the oldest profession on earth. I base my understanding on reading the historic, religious and spiritual books of countries around the world. I'll focus on the Bagavad-Gita from India, over 4,500 years old, and the writings of Moses, over 3,500 years old.

When people started evolving as social creatures, it was families, clans, tribes, living and travelling together. When you were living and meeting other humans as families, each with your own territory, you were dealing with each other as families. When times were tough people would use family members as trade, to give them to others who had more food and work, but that was indentured labour or slavery, even if it was a more gracious social custom than the militant attitudes about it today. It took more evolution to big city life to make people start dealing with commodities like alcohol, drugs and sexual services.

Moses says that after mankind was disenfranchised from The Garden of Eden, God gave use three talents to help us cope with life on Earth, the ability to recognize and grow food, carpentry, and named Jubal as our musical host. When you consider the descriptions of human activity in The Bagavad-Gita, these written histories, the few books on Earth that go back that far, these are the oldest professions. And while my mind right away thinks of Jimi and symphonies and all the surrounding digitals, the first musician on Earth probably specialized with drums, not only for the trance and dance, but for long distance communication. I'm sure that as God's musical missionary Jubal had it all, but drumming had to happen first, just thinking technology and the lack of it.

As much as music move through our hearts, as much as music can inspire us to act in every way, it takes every kind of science and element to make the instruments and outlets we hear today. But it's still the music we hear as humans. Archaeologists in Europe recently discovered a musical pipe made of antler that's been carbon dated as older than 40,000 years, just seven notes to the octave. What surprised everyone was the fact these notes are in tune to what we used today, and the instrument was efficient enough to be very playable.

Knowing this, knowing music to be the rhythm of our lives, and hearing how much of it is being put out there all the time, only saddens me to think we have lost the social aspect that used to exist, people making music themselves or not having any at all. So for you jaxn slim, would you now think prostitution is the oldest profession, or someone being the drummer, or a group of musicians playing while others listen?

You can consider this a spiritual look at music, humans beating out energies when survival existence didn't let them express themselves in other productive ways, even if card-playing, for example, is described as a lazy and open to temptation activity, while writing and art isn't even mentioned.

jelloman and DNW are talking about domestic life using up their personal energies, making it difficult to find the time and inspiration to keep the guitars going. At the turn of the century most North American homes had a piano, one out of four in Ontario, when families still gathered to sing. Now most musical activities are aimed at producing a product for media use. But that takes a lot of production and more of a solo effort as the tech spreads, and that's not getting better as a musician. Jelloman and DNW might be better off than they think, working to keep their households together, and when the time is right to sit and work it out musically, you have the soul to put into it. How many times did I drift out of a band because I was bored with my own playing? Even if it was me being the lead guitarist-vocalist on the road full time, sometimes the music was the lowest consideration.

GoofyDawg looks like he's into that played out headspace, talking about putting out an album and needing a lot of time to turn around and come back with something new to inspire another record. I've never made the effort to record that way, but getting bored in bands has to be almost the same. And typing yourself out online about it is a modern version of that.

normH; Thanks for your interest, and if you like those words enough to work with them, please, let's see what you come up with. You got me looking at them again and I can see some lines... but I'm more of a strummer and hummer, singing to it to see what words come out, so I won't be writing them again for myself.

DRPool; This global internet, this web, often doesn't get me to stick or inspire output, not knowing what people from other cultures and countries are referring to. I can imagine your reference, but you typing about "coming down off your 4/20 smoke out" doesn't come through for me.

It's still a surprise when a musical encounter can invigorate you anew, opening the musical realm a little deeper, letting you reach out more, reaching into more listeners.

as always, John Watt
 
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