The Official Jack's Place 2017 NHL Thread!

Interesting to note that though there was mention of the refs being against Pittsburgh early in the playoffs I would say that the evidence is there that not only did they get the calls (or non calls) like the hand on the puck in the crease non-call and the early whistle on what would have been the opening goal in game 6, but they also got the bounces.

The bounces go the way that they go and it reminded me somewhat of how Montreal won it all in 1993. That year, Pittsburgh should have blown the Islanders out of the rink and then creamed Montreal but Pittsburgh lost to the Islanders and then the Islanders lost to Montreal. Montreal should have been blown out in the first round by Quebec but got the bounces and kept getting them all the way through to the Cup parade.

I read a rumour on the internet that said that Calgary made a trade offer for Ovechkin. I don't know if there is anything to it and haven't heard any hockey dudes on TV talk about it either.
 
Would have loved to seen the Preds win but once Johansen went down I thought they were in big trouble scoring wise and that proved to be their undoing in the end. Felt bad for them to lose on a fluky goal though but like I've told my wife about the NBA, the Champs are the Champs until someone beats them...no one beat the Pens so we'll have to see if someone can next year.

The expansion draft should prove interesting (and the free agents that get signed afterwards)
 
Yes... and Fleury could be taken in that expansion draft. The Pens would not have made it past Washington without Fleury and that was when Murray wasn't ready so they would have been gone. They are a very deep team though and yes, some of it is luck, but much of it is planned and comes from real hockey people being in their administration. If you look at their brass, it is loaded with hockey guys.
 
As that game went on and the Preds couldn't get the high quality shots on net, I knew where it was headed.

For me it's not a big deal except for my intense dislike of Crosby. His on-ice personality is literally horrible - he's gone from being a whiny, lying little bitch to a dirty playing, lying little bitch. The thrown water bottle reaction said it all. And there's no need -- hockey accommodates some fairly dicey play, and Crosby is undeniably amazingly talented.

He's just an asshole. Much as I'm a Patriots fan, I get how people feel the same about Brady, and think A-Rod is in the same category: a great player who cheapens their achievements with bush league crap. Blech.

I'd also suggest that I didn't see any amazing hockey from the Pens, which means next year is up for grabs for a ton of teams. I'm sure the Blackhawks were watching and thinking 'damn, we're much better than that.'
 
Do you actually think he meant to throw that bottle like a little girl? I suspect it just slipped out of his gloves. I mean it only went about 10 feet. Gimme a break.

I do see the parallels to Brady though.

Watching with fairly unbiased eyes, I saw extremely cheap shots from nearly everyone on the ice at some point, so singling out Crosby seems pointless. Even Keith Jones said that PK deserved the drubbing on the ice given by Crosby.
 
Well, boys....this thread has had it all, hasn't it?

I said it before, and I will say it again....Congratulations to Pittsburgh, clearly the best team won.


I'm looking forward to the off-season.

The Flyers will be better next year. Not Cup contenders, but better than this year, that's for sure.

Onward and upwards!
 
Indeed... there could be a lot of movement and actually no guarantee that Fleury moves due to his big salary. Anyone would be an idiot to take Fat Phil - the Penguins were the only team deep enough. Well, maybe San Jose or Chicago...LA doesn't need that sh...

Interested to see who Toronto might pick up and Edmonton as well. Also interested to see who moves out of Washington.
 
It would be awesome if a clerical error left Crosby unprotected and Las Vegas took him.


Montreal fans that I know insist that Crosby will play for the Habs before he is done in the NHL.
 
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Montreal fans that I know insist that Crosby will play for the Habs before he is done in the NHL.
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I'm a Habs guy*, and I'd be absolutely shocked.

*Have been since my youth, but now that I've lived in the Vancouver area and my kids have grown up with Canucks games, I cheer for them on the western conference. If they ever make it to the finals in the same year, I'll break with the family lines.
 
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I'm a Habs guy*, and I'd be absolutely shocked.

*Have been since my youth, but now that I've lived in the Vancouver area and my kids have grown up with Canucks games, I cheer for them on the western conference. If they ever make it to the finals in the same year, I'll break with the family lines.
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Yep. I live in NH....Bruins territory.

I have nothing AGAINST the Bruins (pretty good team), but when they play each other.....well.....you know where I fall.

I had a guy (my next door neighbor when I first moved up here) who asked me if I could ever become a "Bruins guy".

"No. They'd find out. You can't do that."

"What? Who? Who's gonna find out?"

"Philadelphia."

"What?"

"Yeah, can't do that. Not GONNA do that. FLYERS!!!!!"



True story.
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Montreal fans that I know insist that Crosby will play for the Habs before he is done in the NHL.
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Now the silly season begins
I suspect Crosby will be a Pen for life...or at least his useful lifetime. The expansion draft is interesting since everyone will lose someone and who that someone is will be more or less damaging to teams depth and also potentially signal which way they are going.

The biggest thing for me is what the Sharks do with Marleau and Thornton. I really like both players and it would be nice to see Marleau finish his career as a Shark. I wouldn't be shocked to see him cup chase though that doesn't always work out well. The league seems to be accelerating on the trend of getting younger and faster and while Marleau can still skate, Jumbo never was fast and while still an elite passer you wonder if the teams brass would consider spending several million over 3-5 years for someone in their late 30's? It would be a no brainer if they were going to settle for 1-2 million but from what I have heard that seems unlikely.
 
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Indeed... there could be a lot of movement and actually no guarantee that Fleury moves due to his big salary. Anyone would be an idiot to take Fat Phil - the Penguins were the only team deep enough. Well, maybe San Jose or Chicago...LA doesn't need that sh...

Interested to see who Toronto might pick up and Edmonton as well. Also interested to see who moves out of Washington.
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Chicago's ongoing cap issue is REALLY going to fuck them for the near future, unless they can convince one of their aging high-cap-hit players to waive their no-movement clauses. They have a couple of tradeable assets, but even if they mov one/both of them, they are still up against it. Here's to hoping they can move Seabrook somehow.
 
No Bruins fan wants a Flyers fan hopping on the wagon. Please keep your orange and black paraphernalia and we'll be fine. All respect to Rick McLeish, Bobby Clarke, Bill Barber, and Sgt. Schultz.

I do NOT feel like 'the best team won.' Pittsburgh was .... one of the best teams. I didn't watch them and say to myself "geez, look how good these guys are," the way I have with past champions (yeah, including ones I don't particularly care for, like recent Blackhawks and Pens). I just didn't see consistently superior hockey.

In a way it makes next year exciting - who the hell knows who's going to win? I could make a case for 6-10 teams having a shot. And though I doubt Edmonton or Toronto will win, their resurgence is fun to see.

Re: the expansion draft, what happens if the Knights take a player and he decides to retire? Do they just lose the pick?
 
I think that Edmonton is only a piece or two away but I don't think that GM is all that he is cracked up to be. What did he do - sign Chara as a free agent. Did he also trade Thorton for almost nothing or was that the previous dude? He did make the Kessel trade so he looks like a genius for that but a lot of that was dumb luck and then he traded away Seguin who seemed to score a huge goal every time that he played.
 
Well, not intended that way. I just don't know if he is up to the hype that was around him going to Edmonton. They put every bit of Boston's cup win 10 years ago on him and it reminded me of the hype around Brian Burke going to Toronto whenever that was...about ten years ago?
 
Oh, Boston's cup win (2011, btw) was entirely due to the players. Tim Thomas had a great post-season, and Bergeron, Chiara, Lucic, et al simply played very well. That was really a great team. I miss having actual defensemen like Boychuck and Hamilton.
 
Yes indeed Chara and Lucic as well as Bergeron were great. Krejci and Horton were also huge in those playoffs. They were nuts letting Boychuk go. Thomas was fantastic and even the following season as the team looked like they would repeat until Thomas decided to get political and cause a distraction by stating that he was not going to visit the White House due to being against the government of the day. I just wondered how much Chiarelli had to do with assembling the personnel. Seguin seemed to be great whenever they put him in but was deemed a bad apple somehow and traded away - they seemed to keep him in the press box as a healthy scratch too often.

Montreal signed Jonathon Drouin to a deal. Traded a defense prospect for him. How they pulled that off I don't know.
 
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