OMG Politics, I'm over it already Mk III, The Search for Spock

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Pine Apple Slim said:
Just give me some new faces and voices please. Theres plenty of smart liberal women.
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i'm not saying that hillary should not be involved. she needs to stay away from news cameras. she is THE lighting rod for the GOP.
if she wants to be involved, it needs to be not on the news all the time. with what is going on recently, there are some republicans that aren't full on MAGA and aren't comfortable with recent events. but as soon as HRC steps in front of a camera, we're loosing even those "maybe's".
 
mongooz said:
i'm not saying that hillary should not be involved. she needs to stay away from news cameras. she is THE lighting rod for the GOP.
if she wants to be involved, it needs to be not on the news all the time. with what is going on recently, there are some republicans that aren't full on MAGA and aren't comfortable with recent events. but as soon as HRC steps in front of a camera, we're loosing even those "maybe's".
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If we can all be honest, Hillary is insincere as they come. I criticize her for exactly the opposite reasons as conservatives. I voted for Obama over her because of her vote for GW's Iraq war (the worst US military blunder of my lifetime). The way she completely shifted her own platform speaking points after winning the primary in order to pull in Bernie Sanders supporters. She would have been worlds better that Trump, but probably worse than her husband in supporting her Wall Street backers. Just because we're in defense mode doesn't mean we have to wear blinders.
 
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-human-rights-council-cesspool-political-bias

I'm confused. While I do agree that the council doesn't seem the most functional body of the UN, it's a bit odd to get angry about Iran and Venezuela not being reprimanded after you just had a nice little 1 on 1 with the leader of probably the most brutal regime in the world at the moment, think Putin is a stellar guy and reversed the decision to keep Guantanamo Bay open... If we're talking about Iran and Venezuela, where's the mention of Duterte? A lot of pot and kettle things going on here.
 
DdBob said:
As much as I hate to say this...I don't think trump is outright stupid in the classic sense. He has proven he knows how to manipulate people for his own personal gain and that does take some intelligence. All those cult leaders....not stupid. They had a plan and got people to follow them blindly...takes brains and skill.

I think what you mean is .... "trumps problems are being evil, a liar, a a heartless asshole/worthless human being"
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I disagree. I don't think Trump has a clue what he is doing. He is just being himself, an asshole and a good section of the country are assholes, so they jumped on board. I don't think anything he does is calculated or thought out.
 
Chad said:
I disagree. I don't think Trump has a clue what he is doing. He is just being himself, an asshole and a good section of the country are assholes, so they jumped on board. I don't think anything he does is calculated or thought out.
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i think it's a little of both. i think there are some things that are predetermined. but he shoots his mouth off, and then digs in because, NEVER WRONG. so then they're stuck with it until they can find a way to blame someone else for it or a way to "do the next big thing", which is "better than the last thing" and "winning", etc.

and in one way his impulsiveness might actually be a good thing. imagine what might go on if the calculating people around him really got going in the background (pence). we could truly be fucked and never know it until americans start getting rounded up.
 
he knows what he is doing but he is too lazy to put the work in to figure out how to do it effectively. this isn't a real estate deal he can just bankrupt out of after he makes his money.

they rolled out this new policy without doing any preparation to see that it was handled properly. they are very under prepared and are scrambling to figure things out on the fly with human lives at stake.

parents are going to be deported and lose contact with their kids forever because each department is not setup to communicate or coordinate with each other because this was slapped together without any preparation or planning.

trump knows his base will stand by him no matter what but what makes him vulnerable is his refusal to read, prepare and surround himself with people who can actually carry out his plans.
 
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https://bloomberg.com/news/articles...ild-detentions-mean-458-million-for-nonprofit

Here is what Republicans will latch onto in this article:

"Comprehensive Health was previously contracted by the Obama administration under a separate program called “Shelter Care for Unaccompanied Children” to detain immigrant children apprehended crossing the border.

Comprehensive Health’s Homestead facility had been in operation under Obama but was closed last year. Wasserman Schultz said it was reopened this year without notice."
 
Help!I'maRock! said:
https://bloomberg.com/news/articles...ild-detentions-mean-458-million-for-nonprofit

Here is what Republicans will latch onto in this article:

"Comprehensive Health was previously contracted by the Obama administration under a separate program called “Shelter Care for Unaccompanied Children” to detain immigrant children apprehended crossing the border.

Comprehensive Health’s Homestead facility had been in operation under Obama but was closed last year. Wasserman Schultz said it was reopened this year without notice."
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I am no wasserman-schultz fan. I wish she would fade away. But as she is an elected rep, she might as well do something.



(put in the file of yeah, you legally could, but it still stinks. http://observer.com/2017/08/court-a...rman-schulz-rigged-primaries-against-sanders/)
 
Add another thing people who like Trump will defend with vigor....

1. Kid prison
2. Child molesters
3. Sexual predators/rapists
4. Domestic abusers
5. Russians
6. Chinese cell phone manufacturers
7. Nazis. No hyperbole, real life Nazis
8. NFL anti kneeling policies/1st amendment violations
 
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