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Brietbart used to bag on Sweden about immigrant crimes and muslim destabilization and loss of the culture. Of course, this means people from high school email me about it and ask me how dangerous it is where I live, and I have to remind them that Switzerland is not Sweden, and my last trip to Malmo didn't seem to be particularly crime ridden. I think Brietbart have moved on to UK knife crime and German immigrant crime waves, which means now I just have to explain that I am in Europe, but not in the European Union, so I can't comment on how it feels to have a unelected government running my life from Belgium, New World Order style.

The Germans I work with think his comments on the German crime wave are outrageous and pathetic.
 
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Tiltsta said:
Brietbart used to bag on Sweden about immigrant crimes and muslim destabilization and loss of the culture. Of course, this means people from high school email me about it and ask me how dangerous it is where I live, and I have to remind them that Switzerland is not Sweden, and my last trip to Malmo didn't seem to be particularly crime ridden. I think Brietbart have moved on to UK knife crime and German immigrant crime waves, which means now I just have to explain that I am in Europe, but not in the European Union.
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Nah, they're still fucking that chicken.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/201...eekers-loses-track-of-60-percent-of-migrants/
 
Tiltsta said:
Brietbart used to bag on Sweden about immigrant crimes and muslim destabilization and loss of the culture. Of course, this means people from high school email me about it and ask me how dangerous it is where I live, and I have to remind them that Switzerland is not Sweden, and my last trip to Malmo didn't seem to be particularly crime ridden. I think Brietbart have moved on to UK knife crime and German immigrant crime waves, which means now I just have to explain that I am in Europe, but not in the European Union, so I can't comment on how it feels to have a unelected government running my life from Belgium, New World Order style.

The Germans I work with think his comments on the German crime wave are outrageous and pathetic.
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I lived in a city where 51% of the residents were of "non-dutch origin". Best place I've ever lived. Sure, some neighbourhoods sucked balls, but most of them have been notorious shitholes for nearly 100 years.

When cleaning up the attic of my appartment building I found some newspapers from the early 60's complaining about exactly the same shit as today, just wasn't any immigrants to blame then.
 
Help!I'maRock! said:
Nah, they're still fucking that chicken.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/201...eekers-loses-track-of-60-percent-of-migrants/
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This was covered widely in the local news. In most cases the "missing" people have left Switzerland for other countries where they have relatives. They certainly are not living here, as it is damn near impossible to get by here without proper documents. The center they were sent to was a post hearing deportation facility, operating as an experimental pilot program, and the goal was for these people to leave Switzerland. The Swiss take the position that once their Swiss asylum status is denied, where they go isn't a Swiss problem. The Swiss try to repatriate, but if these people want to go to another country and try for asylum, Switzerland doesn't have any authority to stop them.
 
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This was covered widely in the local news. In most cases the "missing" people have left Switzerland for other countries where they have relatives. They certainly are not living here, as it is damn near impossible to get by here without proper documents.
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Yes, but that doesn't drive their racist narrative. This version fits nicely.
 
Tiltsta said:
This was covered widely in the local news. In most cases the "missing" people have left Switzerland for other countries where they have relatives. They certainly are not living here, as it is damn near impossible to get by here without proper documents.
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Yup. In NL most of them just left after being told their chances of getting a permanent resident status were extremely low, after some digging most of them turned up trying their chances in Germany. Same happened here in Finland. After some research the immigration service found some that went to Sweden to try their luck. Ironically 70% just went home as "the weather sucks and the food is awful".
 
ColourofFire said:
I lived in a city where 51% of the residents were of "non-dutch origin". Best place I've ever lived. Sure, some neighbourhoods sucked balls, but most of them have been notorious shitholes for nearly 100 years.

When cleaning up the attic of my appartment building I found some newspapers from the early 60's complaining about exactly the same shit as today, just wasn't any immigrants to blame then.
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I really, really enjoyed my time in the Netherlands. Some relatives we were visiting were a little worried about immigration, but our time there was amazing. The cycling transportation infrastructure alone was impressive.
 
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Help!I'maRock! said:
The Working Families Party is about as close to a progressive third party as this country has. And all they do is endorse Democrats. The Libertarians are making some headway, but don't believe in any kind of social safety net. The Green Party is just silly at this point. That said, major party voters are still convinced, wrongly, that voting for a third party candidate is not a viable option. It is, and always will be the best protest vote. Everyone should be focused right now on making sure they're registered to vote this November, and registering others to vote.
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I would agree with you, if the third parties actually put in the work to build from the ground up, with state legislators, US HOR and Senate members. Some sonofabitch running for president on a 3rd party ticket with no established base is just a magnet for wasted votes. Show me a politician who cares about your protest vote, and how it affected the election, and I'll show you the election loser. It does nothing.
 
335clone said:
I would agree with you, if the third parties actually put in the work to build from the ground up, with state legislators, US HOR and Senate members. Some sonofabitch running for president on a 3rd party ticket with no established base is just a magnet for wasted votes. Show me a politician who cares about your protest vote, and how it affected the election, and I'll show you the election loser. It does nothing.
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The people who bother to show up to vote for a third party candidate are registering their dissent. That's all. Engage the voters who stay home. They're the ones swinging the election.
 
Help!I'maRock! said:
The people who bother to show up to vote for a third party candidate are registering their dissent. That's all. Engage the voters who stay home. They're the ones swinging the election.
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Disagree. I mean I completely agree that everyone has a duty to vote, and I put third party voters WAY ahead of non voters. But voting 3rd part absolutely affects election results.
 
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I really, really enjoyed my time in the Netherlands. Some relatives we were visiting were a little worried about immigration, but our time there was amazing. The cycling transportation infrastructure alone was impressive.
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Most of the issues people worry about in NL concern people who were born with the Dutch nationality, but are (mostly) of Moroccan descent. It's mostly kids and grandkids of guest workers from the late 60's/early 70's. There's some quite significant issues, in my opinion caused by both sides, that haven't exactly helped the integration process. In short, when the guestworkers came here, the idea was working here and then move back to Morocco. For several reasons the move back never happened, which is fine, but it left a 2nd and 3rd generation that doesn't feel entirely Dutch nor Moroccan. Over time it has created friction on both sides. And I must say, most of the "concern" and prejudice come from people in environments where they hardly meet those people. I grew up in the old city centre at a time when no young "Dutch" families lived in the city centre, went to a very mixed elementary school and I never had any more trouble with them than I had with "Dutch" kids from a messed up environment. It's just that when you're white and "Dutch" and do something shit nobody starts shouting about your origins.
 
335clone said:
Disagree. I mean I completely agree that everyone has a duty to vote, and I put third party voters WAY ahead of non voters. But voting 3rd part absolutely affects election results.
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If there were no third parties to vote for, those voters would stay home, further driving down voter engagement.
 
Sessions: Building a wall will end family separations at border
https://nypost.com/2018/06/18/sessions-building-a-wall-will-end-family-separations-at-border/

"Attorney General Jeff Sessions said Monday that Congress could end the practice of separating children from their parents at the border if lawmakers give President Donald Trump his wall and new immigration legislation."

firstly, fuck you sessions.
secondly congress could also stop this POLICY by impeaching shitler and firing your ass. certainly more preferable.
 
Just pointing out that America has plenty of “third-parties” and one could absolutely make a case that Trump is really a third party candidate that usurped the GOP...and that’s significant part of his appeal. The same would apply to Sanders.

What @Help!I'maRock! really wants is a powerful, left-wing political movement that closely adheres to his own personal, immaculate vision of progressive values. But he doesn’t have that...so that’s a problem at the national level.

Because he is intractable.
 
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VoidTerraFirma said:
Just pointing out that America has plenty of “third-parties” and one could absolutely make a case that Trump is really a third party candidate that usurped the GOP...and that’s significant part of his appeal. The same would apply to Sanders.

What @Help!I'maRock! really wants is a powerful, left-wing political movement that closely adheres to his own personal, immaculate vision of progressive values. But he doesn’t have that...so that’s a problem at the national level.

Because he is intractable.
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Hillary won New York by 10 points. Obama won by 20. No vote is guaranteed. Earn it.
 
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