Official Star Wars: Rogue One thread
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Modern Saint
Starve your Fear, Feed your Dream!
Probably see it next weekend.
sunvalleylaw
Yep.
Will be going again.
sunvalleylaw
Yep.
The last movie seemed darkly "lit" at first as well. Thinking it must be intentional.
Thats essentially what I had read.
speakerjones
my hat is all
Finally saw it last night. I took my 7 y.o. daughter (she's a huge SW nerd). I was a little apprehensive, as I heard it was a more of a war movie, and a buddy said it was more violent than the other entries. I didn't realize it was PG13 until we got there. Had I known, I probably would have screened it first. While you certainly see a lot more people die, there aren't any de-limbings, slice-in-halvings, or burnt corpses. The violence was pretty cartoonish for lack of a better description. She loved it, and caught a lot of the easter eggs.
***Spoilers Ahead***
It was definitely a different kind of Star Wars movie, and that's cool. The action was great. All the Vader scenes were kick-ass. The space scenes and dogfights were crazy good. The CGI here was fantastic and it was great to see those familiar ships (and some new ones) in pitched battles. It was a little jarring going from the clean CGI scenes to the grittier look of the live action stuff.
Speaking of jarring, the digital Tarkin almost ruined the movie for me. It was super distracting, every scene he was in. Although the CGI was very well-done (the best I've seen mapping a human), I think recasting a similar looking actor with a good make-up job would have been a way better choice. Or just write him out so he was less involved with the events leading up to finishing the Death Star. The movie should have just ended with the blockade runner escaping. Leia was unnecessary (my daughter loved the appearance, along with all the other cheap tie-ins). Speaking of which, not sure why Vader didn't just wipe out the whole fleet. They pretty much knew they had the plans, and had just wiped out an entire Empire-owned planet to ensure the plans didn't escape. Why bother boarding the rebel ship?
I wish there was a little more depth to the main characters (felt the same about TFA). Perhaps there were a few too many? Perhaps it's on purpose so they can do all the back stories via novels and comics. The cast was great, but I think the writing could have been a lot better. I can't really blame the director much for the movie's faults because I'm sure this was movie making by committee and the producers probably had their hands all over it. The score was really good, though we kept waiting for those main themes, that never came (my daughter picked up on this right off the bat). I think I'm going to see it again, because the theater I saw it in wasn't the greatest. I'll probably see it in IMAX next. If I had to rank it now, I'd rank it fifth. Better than the other prequels, but not as good as the original trilogy or TFA.
***Spoilers Ahead***
It was definitely a different kind of Star Wars movie, and that's cool. The action was great. All the Vader scenes were kick-ass. The space scenes and dogfights were crazy good. The CGI here was fantastic and it was great to see those familiar ships (and some new ones) in pitched battles. It was a little jarring going from the clean CGI scenes to the grittier look of the live action stuff.
Speaking of jarring, the digital Tarkin almost ruined the movie for me. It was super distracting, every scene he was in. Although the CGI was very well-done (the best I've seen mapping a human), I think recasting a similar looking actor with a good make-up job would have been a way better choice. Or just write him out so he was less involved with the events leading up to finishing the Death Star. The movie should have just ended with the blockade runner escaping. Leia was unnecessary (my daughter loved the appearance, along with all the other cheap tie-ins). Speaking of which, not sure why Vader didn't just wipe out the whole fleet. They pretty much knew they had the plans, and had just wiped out an entire Empire-owned planet to ensure the plans didn't escape. Why bother boarding the rebel ship?
I wish there was a little more depth to the main characters (felt the same about TFA). Perhaps there were a few too many? Perhaps it's on purpose so they can do all the back stories via novels and comics. The cast was great, but I think the writing could have been a lot better. I can't really blame the director much for the movie's faults because I'm sure this was movie making by committee and the producers probably had their hands all over it. The score was really good, though we kept waiting for those main themes, that never came (my daughter picked up on this right off the bat). I think I'm going to see it again, because the theater I saw it in wasn't the greatest. I'll probably see it in IMAX next. If I had to rank it now, I'd rank it fifth. Better than the other prequels, but not as good as the original trilogy or TFA.
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I'm actually happy about that. Too much media is so perfectly lit yet life just isn't like that. Maybe it's the amateur photographer in me that just loves natural lighting and the way things are versus overlighting everything.
baimun
Funkasaurus Rex
Mine would be similar....
1. Empire Strikes Back
2. New Hope
3. Rogue One
4. The Force Awakens
5. Return of the Jedi
6. Revenge of the Sith
7. The goddamn Ewok movies
8. Attack of the Clones
3949.999 Phantom Menace
Flamencology
You don't deserve koa.
Haven't seen Rogue One yet, but my list would be otherwise identical. That said, I do like ROTJ more than most people and, save for the ewoks, I do enjoy it more than New Hope. But New Hope wins for innovation and originality.
The prequels would have benefitted greatly from not having killed off Darth Maul and QGJ so quickly instead of killing off George Lucas.
Acadiafall
Kiss Me Hardy
Saw it at the weekend. Excellent! And Jyn is cuuuuuuuute.
Slight spoiler but not really, below.
Oh and the last bit with Darth Vader? Awesome, Its great they put that bit in with the rebel soldiers as it shows him to be the badass that he actually is.
Slight spoiler but not really, below.
Oh and the last bit with Darth Vader? Awesome, Its great they put that bit in with the rebel soldiers as it shows him to be the badass that he actually is.
jp_nyc
Kick Henry Jackassowski
The prequels would have benefitted greatly from having not been made at all. They're just shitty movies all around. Bad writing, bad acting, bad directing, bad editing, bad CGI.
Peen Simmons
Let’s Get Obtuse!
The Prequels are mostly bad because you know what's going to happen and instead of thrilling you with irony and suspense and dread, they just shot people talking about Anakin being the chosen one in front of a green screen.
There's a goddamn CLONE WAR happening for good chunk of the prequels and they barely show you any of it. Instead you're on the edge of your seat watching Obi Wan visiting the Jedi library only to find out that Dracula checked out the holo-mappity-book-exposition-MacGuffin he wanted years ago and never returned it.
The prequels should have been three movies about Obi Wan failing at being a Jedi despite doing everything (mostly) the right way. The consequence of Obi Wan's failure should have been the creation of Darth Vader.
If you're going to make romantic love/obsession a key element in Vader's downfall, then Obi Wan should have had a dalliance with Natalie Portman which helped send Vader into a spiral.
If you focus on the Obi Wan/Vader dynamic--with Vader's lady willfully choosing Obi Wan over Vader because Vader is a moody jerk--you don't need Yoda, Dooku, the trade federation, an all powerful Emperor clouding people's minds, Samuel Jackson, or any of the other silly shit that made prequels confusing and dumb. It's love during wartime where two dudes with a sibling rivalry type relationship vie for the same accolades, the same primo promotion at the Jedi factory, and the same whatever else but then truly learn to hate each other when Natalie Portman chooses one of them over the other. And when Gallant becomes Goofus and starts murdering people because he has a broken heart and a lawful evil streak, Obi Wan has to track him down and try to put a stop to it.
There's a goddamn CLONE WAR happening for good chunk of the prequels and they barely show you any of it. Instead you're on the edge of your seat watching Obi Wan visiting the Jedi library only to find out that Dracula checked out the holo-mappity-book-exposition-MacGuffin he wanted years ago and never returned it.
The prequels should have been three movies about Obi Wan failing at being a Jedi despite doing everything (mostly) the right way. The consequence of Obi Wan's failure should have been the creation of Darth Vader.
If you're going to make romantic love/obsession a key element in Vader's downfall, then Obi Wan should have had a dalliance with Natalie Portman which helped send Vader into a spiral.
If you focus on the Obi Wan/Vader dynamic--with Vader's lady willfully choosing Obi Wan over Vader because Vader is a moody jerk--you don't need Yoda, Dooku, the trade federation, an all powerful Emperor clouding people's minds, Samuel Jackson, or any of the other silly shit that made prequels confusing and dumb. It's love during wartime where two dudes with a sibling rivalry type relationship vie for the same accolades, the same primo promotion at the Jedi factory, and the same whatever else but then truly learn to hate each other when Natalie Portman chooses one of them over the other. And when Gallant becomes Goofus and starts murdering people because he has a broken heart and a lawful evil streak, Obi Wan has to track him down and try to put a stop to it.
sonik
Motor City Madman
Yes.
Though in a wonky way you do get some of the obi wan - padme - vader thing going on.
sunvalleylaw
Yep.
I prefer power as the primary motivator, with love interest/jealousy/possession of women as a sign of said power being secondary.