A question for those who flip between Amps and Headphones with Tonex Pedal.

[BrammyH]

Firstly, I know that to use the ToneX Pedal I need to turn the IR off, and use the FX Return on the amp. I also know I'll lose the bits of the model that have the cab.

The question I have is adjusting presets. Rather than turn the presets off globally, should I duplicate the presets, turn the cab off on that preset, and fine tune it? Or, is just turning to cab off globally using the preset normally good enough?

I have a feeling I am going to want to create separate presets, but I am curious how others handle it?

 

[jrockbridge]

You could create separate presets for headphones vs fx return into amp. I suppose another way to do it would be to use an eq in your patches for headphones and then turn the cab sim off and eq off when going into the fx return of your amp.

I use my ToneX One a bit different. All of my ToneX patches are cab sim off. I feed my ToneX One into an HX Stomp. I have headphone patches with cab sims saved on the HX Stomp. I have patches on my HX Stomp without cab sims for going into my Fryette Power Station PS2 amp into various real cabs.

I use an Airstep TX edition foot controller to change amp patches on the ToneX. The HX is for FX patches, plus cab sims when using headphones.

 

[BrammyH]

You could create separate presets for headphones vs fx return into amp

This is what I am going to have to do, I think. Even with Cab sim off, I'm losing some of the clarity because I build the sound around the IRs. So I am going to duplicate them on like bank 10+ and rework them.

 

[jrockbridge]

This is what I am going to have to do, I think. Even with Cab sim off, I'm losing some of the clarity because I build the sound around the IRs. So I am going to duplicate them on like bank 10+ and rework them.

It’s normal, with amp modeling + speaker cab IR (or amp capture + IR), for the same preset to sound different through headphones vs FRFR. So, it’s no surprise that an amp capture + speaker cab IR via headphones sounds different than the same amp capture, without speaker cab IR, via fx return of a real guitar amp and real speaker cab.

MyToneX One only has 20 preset slots. If I were using it alone that would only be 10 for real speaker cab vs 10 for headphone. If that were the way I was using it, I’d probably set all 20 presets for use with real cabs and add an eq in the patch for making those work with the cab IR’s via headphones. Fortunately, I’m using the ToneX One with my HX Stomp which has 126 preset slots. So, I have plenty of dedicated presets for headphones vs presets for real amps with real cabs.