Hey Howie!

Help!I'maRock! said:
more downward pressure on the string. this way you don't need a 17 degree tilt headstock. it's also not a pain in the ass when you take the old strings off, like the lock method is.

i tune to pitch, stretch the strings, and tune to pitch again. that usually takes care of any tuning issues.
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You can achieve the downward pressure thing by just resting a finger on the string near the tuner while you're winding, too. That ensures the string wraps down the post. :shrug:
 
huskerdude said:
You can achieve the downward pressure thing by just resting a finger on the string near the tuner while you're winding, too. That ensures the string wraps down the post. :shrug:
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sorry, i assumed people do that regardless of method.

most guitars i've come across with the lock method have fewer wraps. one, maybe two. i like at least 2 1/2 to 3. and once you've got that many wraps, you don't need the lock.
 
Help!I'maRock! said:
sorry, i assumed people do that regardless of method.

most guitars i've come across with the lock method have fewer wraps. one, maybe two. i like at least 2 1/2 to 3. and once you've got that many wraps, you don't need the lock.
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But if you do the lock, you don't need more than 1 or 2 wraps.

I see a game of chicken or egg coming on. :embarrassed:
 
Help!I'maRock! said:
sorry, i assumed people do that regardless of method.

most guitars i've come across with the lock method have fewer wraps. one, maybe two. i like at least 2 1/2 to 3. and once you've got that many wraps, you don't need the lock.
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I don't do the lock method, either. I just do several wraps, like you mentioned, both to keep the sting in tune, and to keep it from unwinding over time. I did about eleventy zillion restrings when I worked at the guitar shop, and no complaints.
 
Prages said:
But if you do the lock, you don't need more than 1 or 2 wraps.

I see a game of chicken or egg coming on. :embarrassed:
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not really.

3 to 4 wraps puts more downward pressure on the string. so if for some reason you have a poorly cut nut, you can alleviate any rattle.

this is most commonly found on the 3rd string of Fender guitars that only have one string tree. Fender has alleviated this problem by either putting 2 string trees on the headstock or moving to staggered posts.

Gibsons have a steep headstock angle, so it's not needed.

Floyds have a locking nut, so it doesn't matter.
 
I'm somewhat lost in this conversation....


.... every guitar I own (except my acoustic) has locking tuners. :shrug:
 
i have locking tuners on 2 guitars. my PRS has the Phase II tuners, and my Tele has "vintage" locking Gotohs. i'm not such a fan of the Gotohs. i might swap them for a set of split-shaft tuners.
 
I've got lockers on my quilty Warmoth and the winged lockers on my PRS. All the others are just standard tuners, though I do have 5 guitars with Floyds on them. :embarrassed:
 
I have locking tuners on my Reverend, but I haven't had it long enough to even think about changing strings. :embarrassed:
 
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