What are the best locking tuners for a Les Paul?

If you’re going for looks, Gotoh makes Kluson style with posts that lock from the top. Virtually indistinguishable from non-locking tuners.

Personally I like Hipshot locking tuners because of the exposed gear behind the lock knob (better feeling and less bulky than others). They have 5 or 6 different shapes of tuner buttons.

Its what I have on my Taylor as well.
 
You should find something here.

This set will drop in. It's the only one I found in nickel. I'm guessing that's what the rest of the hardware is on it. If not, they have chrome.
 
You should find something here.

This set will drop in. It's the only one I found in nickel. I'm guessing that's what the rest of the hardware is on it. If not, they have chrome.
OK - I ordered a set of these and a string butler. I need the guitar for something on April 30th, and it really needs to be in tune. This is Phase One for this guitar. I'll get a matched set of pickups when I can afford it. Probably Lollars. The poor thing is fucking tired and needs a spa day before I can rely on it again.
 
The poor thing is fucking tired and needs a spa day before I can rely on it again.

Heck, I'm getting ready to put my '72 under a drill press. For 52 years the bridge has been off-center and I've reached a point where I no longer care about babying it. Might even drill it for a poop knife.

As the the question...

Kluson now makes the KRGL-3 (10mm) and KRGLNC-3 (11/32"), the latter may be the first Kluson-style drop-in replacements that lock from the back (that I've seen). I have no idea how much weight they add, I;m sure they are heavier than normal Kluson style or Hipshot.

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Heck, I'm getting ready to put my '72 under a drill press. For 52 years the bridge has been off-center and I've reached a point where I no longer care about babying it. Might even drill it for a poop knife.

As the the question...

Kluson now makes the KRGL-3 (10mm) and KRGLNC-3 (11/32"), the latter may be the first Kluson-style drop-in replacements that lock from the back (that I've seen). I have no idea how much weight they add, I;m sure they are heavier than normal Kluson style or Hipshot.

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Yeah - it’s not about resale value for me but it’s a tool that has gotten pretty worn out. I’m working so much that I can’t afford to have that much money wrapped up in a “case queen”.
 
Dissenting opinion: I have had and have several (i.e. lots of) guitars with locking tuners, and frankly I think they're a solution looking for a problem. I have never had an issue with tuning stability in any properly-setup guitar with non-locking tuners, but have had difficulty with loose parts, threaded wheels getting lost, etc. with lockers. I just don't think they're worth it.
 
Dissenting opinion: I have had and have several (i.e. lots of) guitars with locking tuners, and frankly I think they're a solution looking for a problem. I have never had an issue with tuning stability in any properly-setup guitar with non-locking tuners, but have had difficulty with loose parts, threaded wheels getting lost, etc. with lockers. I just don't think they're worth it.

I agree when you're talking about fixed bridges.

When tremolos are in play, having fewer wraps around the post makes sure that the winding returns to the same position and tension once the bar is released. That said, I've found that string changes and stretching (even without a trem) are much faster and easier with locking tuners as again the wraps don't need to stretch and settle to lock in place.
 
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Dissenting opinion: I have had and have several (i.e. lots of) guitars with locking tuners, and frankly I think they're a solution looking for a problem. I have never had an issue with tuning stability in any properly-setup guitar with non-locking tuners, but have had difficulty with loose parts, threaded wheels getting lost, etc. with lockers. I just don't think they're worth it.

I like them strictly because of how easy they make string changing - it's a definite bonus. For someone like Mark (and me, for that matter), who has publicly professed his hatred of string changes many times, they're absolutely useful.
 
I like them strictly because of how easy they make string changing - it's a definite bonus. For someone like Mark (and me, for that matter), who has publicly professed his hatred of string changes many times, they're absolutely useful.
I do wish my 12-string had em!
 
Ok.- I'm sold. I might think about putting a set on my main strat, too. I did have to drill out the holes a little bit but other than that it was an east install. I put it together last night, played it a bit to break the strings in and when I just took it out of the gig bag this morning it was still in tune. Amazing.


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Ok.- I'm sold. I might think about putting a set on my main strat, too.
I have Hipshots on every guitar I built as well as my PRS Custom24 SE (which came with standard tuners)...they add so much tuning stability regardless of bridge type that I don't understand why every guitar DOESN'T come with them...

The String Butler is also a good move on a Les Paul because of the break angle...
 
I have Hipshots on every guitar I built as well as my PRS Custom24 SE (which came with standard tuners)...they add so much tuning stability regardless of bridge type that I don't understand why every guitar DOESN'T come with them...

The String Butler is also a good move on a Les Paul because of the break angle...
Yeah. I'm a convert, for sure. I eventually need a new nut and a new bridge for this guitar (its seen some shit) but it is already so much more functional with this little project.
 
Dissenting opinion: I have had and have several (i.e. lots of) guitars with locking tuners, and frankly I think they're a solution looking for a problem. I have never had an issue with tuning stability in any properly-setup guitar with non-locking tuners, but have had difficulty with loose parts, threaded wheels getting lost, etc. with lockers. I just don't think they're worth it.
I think we're the standouts. I was all about locking tuners around early 2000s. Replaced a few, bought them for builds. Then I built my first Tele using vintage open tuners. During that time, I had a couple of locking cams stick. I couldn't change the high E string without a small screwdriver. Overall, I think Leo got it right. But that's just
my preference.
 
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