Mojo Request Well I guess it is no surprise… your hefty friend smurfco has “severe sleep apnea”

smurfco

Meatus McPrepuce
Just got the results back from the in home sleep study I did. It measures how many times an hour you stop breathing. The doctor said anything over 30 is severe and mine was 52. Well that was a fine how-do-you-do. I need a CPAP. He said there is a shortage though and a 12 week wait time. He also suggested I lose some weight and that would help.

I guess it is good that I am getting this addressed. I hope it makes me feel better once I start using it. Maybe this is why I feel like shit all the time…
 
Check it out. When I did mine years ago at my heaviest I stopped breathing 160 times an hour. Doc showed me that in the video and the read out on screen as it happened. They woke me 2 hours in and put a device on me. 4 hours later when they woke me I immediately felt like energized and well rested. It was crazy.

Had a company deliver one to me at work and fitted to to my face in and he middle of the day so I could begin using it asap.

I used it for years until 2 years ago when I lost 150 pounds. Now I sleep fine without it again.

Good luck with it and I hope you find the eating habits that let you lose the weight.
 
I have it too unless I sleep on my side. I was once in the ICU with pancreatitis cholic, I couldn't sleep on my side and my oxygen levels kept falling down to 40% so they gave me an oxygen mask. I woke that next morning with my acute pancreatitis, but feeling like an Energizer bunny. It was the weirdest sensation of euphoria within misery.
 
Sleep mojo. Hopefully that will help. I do not sleep well at all, but it is not an apnea thing (I don't think). I just take forever to get to sleep.
 
Welcome to the brotherhood of hoseheads. As a long time user, feel free to ask me any questions.

And, yes, there is a bit of a shortage. One of the two major CPAP manufacturers, Philips Respironics, had to recall EVERY CPAP machine they've ever built because of bad sound absorbing foam. That, along with the global chip shortage, has put a crunch on the supply of machines.

I've been a fan (pun intended) of Respironics machines in the past. However, from what I hear, the new Dreamstation 2 machines are not up to the usual Respironics quality standards (apparently they were designed to be cheap and fast to manufacture). You probably want to get a ResMed Airsense 11 if at all possible.

Before you go any further on the hoser path, get your doctor to WRITE you a prescription for a CPAP with your min and max pressures (sleep study should have figured these out). This will put YOU in control of your therapy and future mask decisions.

Losing weight may or may not fix the problem. I managed to lose a considerable amount of weight after being diagnosed. It lessened the severity, but I still had apnea. Turns out I just have a big tongue and small throat (my ENTs technical diagnosis).

Some random things you'll want to know:

CPAP pressure is measured in cm/H2O - as in how many centimeters would that pressure lift a column of water.

Good machines have two features that you WILL want:
  • Automatic pressure - min and max pressures are set and the machine adjusts the pressure between those min and max to stop your apneas (the machine can sense apneas and even snoring).
  • Exhalation (or expitory) relief. This reduces the pressure when you exhale. Otherwise you feel like you are trying to breathe with a pillow over your face.
AFAIK, the pressure settings and various other bits are in hidden menus on the machine. Existing machines have ways to get to these (google is your friend). I've heard rumors that the next generation machines from Respironics and ResMed will be adjustable ONLY by cloud based communications with the doctor or DME's therapist.

Complete masks require a prescription in the US (don't believe anyone who tells you otherwise). You will see sellers pop up on ebay and Amazon selling masks, but ebay and Amazon shut them down as soon as they are discovered.

Mask parts, hoses, filters, and other accessories DO NOT require a script. You can build a mask from parts from Amazon (this is how I get mine).

There are two major type of masks: full-face and nasal. Nasal masks come in a variety of forms. In the nostril (technically your nose hole is called a "nare") canula. These give an almost prefect unbreakable seal, but are a cast-iron bitch to ever get used to. Then there are nasal "pillows" where an expandable soft rubber bit pushes up against your nose. These are comfy (relatively speaking) but are easy to break seal and render your treatment ineffective. Lastly, probably the most popular is the cup over the nose model. You only need a full face mask if you have nasal issues that prevent you from breathing through your nose, or if you can't keep you mouth closed while you sleep (but there are straps and tapes that can also deal with that).

There exists open-source software called OSCAR that will read the SDCARD from your machine (obviously, your machine has to have that feature) and give you TONS of information about your breathing during sleep. My advice is to use this and take the time to understand what the reports show you. Doctors and even respiratory therapists do not understand CPAP. They think they are experts, but they are generally clueless. Only you can get your rig tuned for maximum effectiveness.

I have used many different masks over the years, and far and away my favorite is Respironics Dreamwear (the non pillow type). I can't recommend this mask enough. Fair warning: I do have a slight financial relationship to Respironics, but I really do love this mask.

Try to keep your max pressure below 15 cm. Anything higher and typical masks will "blow" the seal to your face and render treatment ineffective. If you need pressure higher than that, you are probably looking at a nasal prong canula type mask.

Unless you have really good insurance, you will likely save money by buying your machine yourself (this is where you need that written prescription). cpap.com is where I buy my machines. Your insurance will consider this out of network, but may still pay 60%

Craigslist usually has a lot of CPAP machines. You might want to get a temp machine there waiting for your new machine which might take a couple of months. Respironics Dreamstations are pretty easy to come by because people are afraid of the foam issue. Fortunately, the foam is easy to remove. Go to Youtube and search for "drain weasel dreamstation". That same guy has a nice detailed video on how to tear down and re-assemble a dreamstation.

Wow, this turned into a book...

Again, any questions, feel free to ask.
 
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I also have non-weight related apnea. Losing weight is a good idea if you don't feel good because of your weight, but it won't necessarily fix your night breath.
 
Just got the results back from the in home sleep study I did. It measures how many times an hour you stop breathing. The doctor said anything over 30 is severe and mine was 52.…

They said mine was over 100 and woke me up after midnight. :embarrassed:

"Yeah, you're not going to have to come back a second night... you were off the charts and had us worried. Let's put you on a CPAP for the rest of the night and see how you feel. "

:boring: <- The actual color of my face when I would sleep.
 
I couldn’t get used to the CPAP machine, but I had a full face mask. I lost a lot of weight since and not needed to use it again
 
Perhaps MMA is an option? No, not mixed martial arts Smurfco. Maxillo Mandibular Advancement surgury. They extend your jaws to treats your apnea.
Mojo.

In certain cases, surgury can go terribly wrong.

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*my brother's friend had MMA surgury and it got rid of his snoring.
 
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I wake up a lot to pee, but that is a different issue than yours. I hope you get one soon and I hope it helps.
 
Welcome to the brotherhood of hoseheads. As a long time user, feel free to ask me any questions.

And, yes, there is a bit of a shortage. One of the two major CPAP manufacturers, Philips Respironics, had to recall EVERY CPAP machine they've ever built because of bad sound absorbing foam. That, along with the global chip shortage, has put a crunch on the supply of machines.

I've been a fan (pun intended) of Respironics machines in the past. However, from what I hear, the new Dreamstation 2 machines are not up to the usual Respironics quality standards (apparently they were designed to be cheap and fast to manufacture). You probably want to get a ResMed Airsense 11 if at all possible.

Before you go any further on the hoser path, get your doctor to WRITE you a prescription for a CPAP with your min and max pressures (sleep study should have figured these out). This will put YOU in control of your therapy and future mask decisions.

Losing weight may or may not fix the problem. I managed to lose a considerable amount of weight after being diagnosed. It lessened the severity, but I still had apnea. Turns out I just have a big tongue and small throat (my ENTs technical diagnosis).

Some random things you'll want to know:

CPAP pressure is measured in cm/H2O - as in how many centimeters would that pressure lift a column of water.

Good machines have two features that you WILL want:
  • Automatic pressure - min and max pressures are set and the machine adjusts the pressure between those min and max to stop your apneas (the machine can sense apneas and even snoring).
  • Exhalation (or expitory) relief. This reduces the pressure when you exhale. Otherwise you feel like you are trying to breathe with a pillow over your face.
AFAIK, the pressure settings and various other bits are in hidden menus on the machine. Existing machines have ways to get to these (google is your friend). I've heard rumors that the next generation machines from Respironics and ResMed will be adjustable ONLY by cloud based communications with the doctor or DME's therapist.

Complete masks require a prescription in the US (don't believe anyone who tells you otherwise). You will see sellers pop up on ebay and Amazon selling masks, but ebay and Amazon shut them down as soon as they are discovered.

Mask parts, hoses, filters, and other accessories DO NOT require a script. You can build a mask from parts from Amazon (this is how I get mine).

There are two major type of masks: full-face and nasal. Nasal masks come in a variety of forms. In the nostril (technically your nose hole is called a "nare") canula. These give an almost prefect unbreakable seal, but are a cast-iron bitch to ever get used to. Then there are nasal "pillows" where an expandable soft rubber bit pushes up against your nose. These are comfy (relatively speaking) but are easy to break seal and render your treatment ineffective. Lastly, probably the most popular is the cup over the nose model. You only need a full face mask if you have nasal issues that prevent you from breathing through your nose, or if you can't keep you mouth closed while you sleep (but there are straps and tapes that can also deal with that).

There exists open-source software called OSCAR that will read the SDCARD from your machine (obviously, your machine has to have that feature) and give you TONS of information about your breathing during sleep. My advice is to use this and take the time to understand what the reports show you. Doctors and even respiratory therapists do not understand CPAP. They think they are experts, but they are generally clueless. Only you can get your rig tuned for maximum effectiveness.

I have used many different masks over the years, and far and away my favorite is Respironics Dreamwear (the non pillow type). I can't recommend this mask enough. Fair warning: I do have a slight financial relationship to Respironics, but I really do love this mask.

Try to keep your max pressure below 15 cm. Anything higher and typical masks will "blow" the seal to your face and render treatment ineffective. If you need pressure higher than that, you are probably looking at a nasal prong canula type mask.

Unless you have really good insurance, you will likely save money by buying your machine yourself (this is where you need that written prescription). cpap.com is where I buy my machines. Your insurance will consider this out of network, but may still pay 60%

Craigslist usually has a lot of CPAP machines. You might want to get a temp machine there waiting for your new machine which might take a couple of months. Respironics Dreamstations are pretty easy to come by because people are afraid of the foam issue. Fortunately, the foam is easy to remove. Go to Youtube and search for "drain weasel dreamstation". That same guy has a nice detailed video on how to tear down and re-assemble a dreamstation.

Wow, this turned into a book...

Again, any questions, feel free to ask.

Thanks - this is REALLY helpful and much appreciated. I will get that prescription and see where I can go from there. I appreciate it!
 
I wake up a lot to pee, but that is a different issue than yours. I hope you get one soon and I hope it helps.
A guy that I worked with (he retired a couple of years ago) said that when he started using his CPAP machine, he no longer had to get up to pee in the middle of the night.

:shrug:
 
A guy that I worked with (he retired a couple of years ago) said that when he started using his CPAP machine, he no longer had to get up to pee in the middle of the night.

:shrug:
I had the same thing. On the other hand, he might be wearing the hose wrong.

I also started dreaming for the first time in basically 20 years.
 
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