Well, crap. No Banshee orders for a while

[dougk]

Just recieved another cease and desist from Gibson, this time over the generic Firebird shape. We came to an agreement last year with the headstock change (which was much over due). They are also complaining that the logo I laser on the PG (which is a first gen Pontiac Firebird logo) is the same as theirs. It's not, but it kind of splits the difference between the Firebird and Thunderbird.

That's not an issue to me at all. Happy to change that up.

So we'll see. Honestly, I'm kind of happy to stop building them but they've become a pretty sizable chunk of my yearly production (about 10-25%).

I think Scott Holiday refusing to become an endorser two weeks ago caused this thwap0rotflmaorotflmaorotflmao

 

[PunkKitty]

Sorry to hear that, Doug.

 

[Mark Wein]

That sucks.

 

[dougk]

Sorry to hear that, Doug.

Honestly? I kind of wish it had happened 5 years ago when I still hated building them. LOL

It's not end of the world. I'll tweak the shape. Ironically, their trademark is only 3 years old, we've been doing them longer than that so I'll have to talk to the lawyer about it.

(BTW I'm not mad in the least, I think this is more funny than anything. I know the deal with trademarks, you enforce them or you loose them.)

 

[Jbird]

:(

Can we send a cease and desist letter to Gibson telling them to stop making crappy Firebird X's, crappy Les Pauls with flame/bowling ball graphics, etc.?

Or would that be asking too much?

 

[GreatDane]

you've got the right attitude about it, doug. to be expected when it comes to patents. so what body style tweaks are you thinking about?

 

[BlackCat]

I love that guitar. I'm sorry to hear it.

 

[dougk]

:(

Can we send a cease and desist letter to Gibson telling them to stop making crappy Firebird X's, crappy Les Pauls with flame/bowling ball graphics, etc.?

Or would that be asking too much?

I wish I would have trademarked it before them. That would have been hilarious!

 

[jelloman]

So what's the guy in Rival Sons gonna play?

 

[Kerouac]

I think the Daylighter shape is a whole lot cooler anyway.

 

[ellengtrgrl]

Bummer! I hope you can get it worked out in short order.

 

[dougk]

So what's the guy in Rival Sons gonna play?

He can still keep playing them, not like Gibson can take them from him

I think the Daylighter shape is a whole lot cooler anyway.

I agree honestly. I'd much rather do my originals, the Banshee's predate Kauer Guitars back when I was building them for my own enjoyment

 

[telecaster911]

That's a bummer :(

 

[Tig]

BTW, I saw Rival Sons play live in Gotherburg on Paladium this morning.

 

[GilmourD]

I hate that Gibson sues everybody that makes things that people want when Gibson won't do it themselves.

That said, I'd rather rock a Banshee than give Gibson any money. I hope you can make them again in the future... And that I can rob a bank to pay for one.

 

[jp_nyc]

This is your big chance to design a new iconic offset body. That said, it’s pretty shitty for Gibson to wait 48 years before filing for a trademark.

 

[jp_nyc]

I hate that Gibson sues everybody that makes things that people want when Gibson won't do it themselves.

But Gibson does make Firebirds.

 

[GilmourD]

But Gibson does make Firebirds.

Yes... But Doug on his worst day ever is infinitely cooler than Henry.

 

[Help!I'maRock!]

Yes... But Doug on his worst day ever is infinitely cooler than Henry.

Sure, but that's not the way trademarks work.

Doug, I like that you're going to take the opportunity to do something new. Shoulda trademarked it though. Wouldn't that have been a bitch?

 

[Chad]

That sucks, but it sounds like you are cool with it. I bet when you tweak it a little, it will be cooler anyways. Maybe some kind of cross between a firebird and an explorer.

I also agree with Kerouac that your designs are better anyways.


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