Pragestock III.....too soon to begin nailing down a date?

So, do we need a separate poll to see when the best dates are? Sounds like fall is definitely better for Dexter.....
 
Bunch of cupcakes you are. I drive in NYC all the time. It's not bad. The only rule to follow is that if there is open pavement, cover it with your car - and remember no two cars can occupy the same space.

I'll probably be making the drive from Jersey. Peeing at every restop just to mark my territory along the way.

I wont drive in NYC. Hard and fast rule of mine. I'd be terrified.
 
I wont drive in NYC. Hard and fast rule of mine. I'd be terrified.

it's not as bad as you think. that said, i definitely get into "attack mode" when driving the streets of Manhattan. the highways are easy. just be prepared to stop. and to pay for bridge tolls.

the other solution is to fly into JFK, take the AirTrain to the subway to Penn Station, and take NJ Transit as far south as possible and have somebody pick you up.
 
it's not as bad as you think. that said, i definitely get into "attack mode" when driving the streets of Manhattan. the highways are easy. just be prepared to stop. and to pay for bridge tolls.

the other solution is to fly into JFK, take the AirTrain to the subway to Penn Station, and take NJ Transit as far south as possible and have somebody pick you up.

Well, yeah, maybe I'd drive in the outer boroughs. Seems like they'd be fine. But Manhattan, absolutely not. I've seen the way you New Yorkers drive in Manhattan. I've been in a car in Manhattan as a passenger. Scary as hell. D.C. is RELAXING compared to Manhattan, I'd rather drive on the beltways for a week straight than drive for 30 seconds in Manhattan.
 
I love to drive in Manhatten. It's the best part. It's like public racing. I'll do that anyday.

And I'm not just saying that to sound like a tough guy. I really do enjoy it. Probably because I've done it lots and now my way around.

Its the unfamiliar cities that I don't like driving in.
 
driving in the outer boroughs isn't a cakewalk either. try the BQE, Gowanus, or the Major Deegan for your preferred gridlock experience.

also, it depends on where in Manhattan you're driving. i'm not certain that being a passenger in a cab is really representative of how people drive. if i'm driving myself, i definitely don't drive like a cabbie.
 
driving in the outer boroughs isn't a cakewalk either. try the BQE, Gowanus, or the Major Deegan for your preferred gridlock experience.

also, it depends on where in Manhattan you're driving. i'm not certain that being a passenger in a cab is really representative of how people drive. if i'm driving myself, i definitely don't drive like a cabbie.

Never been in a NYC cab. Seems like as much fun as bungee jumping.
 
reckless cabbies are universal

There's a lot more stuff to hit in Manhattan. And judging by the condition of their cabs, it happens ALL the time. They're also apparently willing to hit pedestrians as well as other vehicles, they've made that pretty clear to me when I've been up there.
 
Yeah, that's the first thing I learned when I was there. When those guys get the green light, they WILL go. Doesn't matter what's in their way. :embarrassed:
 
it's not as bad as you think. that said, i definitely get into "attack mode" when driving the streets of Manhattan.

When I was 13 we took a trip back to visit family in New York...we had been living in California for 5-6 years at that point and I grew up with my father driving "California style"...I wasn't old enough to remember how he drove in New York and didn't know that from the mid 1950's-mid 1960's he had driven a repair and installation van for RCA in Manhattan. A VAN.

It was like my father transformed into another person yelling out the window, honking the horn and even flipping the bird at another driver (which I had never seen him do before or since). It was like a soldier back from the war having a PTSD flashback when a car backfires :embarrassed:
 
There's a lot more stuff to hit in Manhattan. And judging by the condition of their cabs, it happens ALL the time. They're also apparently willing to hit pedestrians as well as other vehicles, they've made that pretty clear to me when I've been up there.

most cabbies don't own their cabs. the ones that do keep them up pretty well. many cab drivers rent the cab for a 12 hour shift from a company that owns the cabs. they need a cabbie license, of course, but it's like $100 per 12 hr shift, plus gas. any fares they make are theirs, sans credit card fees and such. so if you're getting into a run down cab, it likely has more to do with the medallion holder than the driver.
 
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