I've got the greatest guitar of them all!

You should build a guitar with a CD slot in it.
Well it has an input jack for a mp3/CD player line-in.
Wait...You may be the only person on earth who can make a guitar do one thing no one else can....
FRY BACON AND GIVE YOU BLOWJOBS!
bacon blowjobs.

Well here's Mr Microphone in Entertain Us. It's 6minutes long and there are a number of effects used in the 2nd half of it. So if you're interested in seeing the exotic capability of an amp-in-guitar... check the 2nd half:
 
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i try to be civilized in my criticism. but honestly, i can't see a use for your product. keep your day job and play the guitars that you love. but don't foist them upon us. in case you haven't learned, guitarists are a fickle group and will reject a concept because it smells wrong. just look at the reactions to the Guitar Pic of the Day threads.

Hi Help!I'maRock!
My impression of the guitar pic of the day threads is that they're about fashion rather than the actual performance of the guitar. As an engineer of things that MUST PERFORM and depending on things to perform every day (like my Electric-bicycle that presently has a flat), I care most about how it produces sound when and where I happen to be. you've heard the rest of the story.... acoustics follow people to the canoe, park, beach, car, friends houses, eve the back of the bicycle. So can a Power Guitar and it sure has more capability when you want electric effects. So perhapse it's time to break out of fassion into a whole new concept. Like when they invented the braw or panti hose or something. I do believe the 12 pounders prove the concept can perform 6W street-amp-output, and the 7 pounders prove the extreme-mobility-with-1.5outof-2W. They also prove live strings and total live-string-chaos risk-benefits (hmmm been workin too long if I'm thinking ROI)... ttyl.
 
Hi Help!I'maRock!
My impression of the guitar pic of the day threads is that they're about fashion rather than the actual performance of the guitar. As an engineer of things that MUST PERFORM and depending on things to perform every day (like my Electric-bicycle that presently has a flat), I care most about how it produces sound when and where I happen to be. you've heard the rest of the story.... acoustics follow people to the canoe, park, beach, car, friends houses, eve the back of the bicycle. So can a Power Guitar and it sure has more capability when you want electric effects. So perhapse it's time to break out of fassion into a whole new concept. Like when they invented the braw or panti hose or something. I do believe the 12 pounders prove the concept can perform 6W street-amp-output, and the 7 pounders prove the extreme-mobility-with-1.5outof-2W. They also prove live strings and total live-string-chaos risk-benefits (hmmm been workin too long if I'm thinking ROI)... ttyl.

a guitar absolutely must perform. but by missing out on the aesthetic aspect, you lose the entire market. you say that guitars are all the same in regards to their technology, and that's mostly true. but just how much technology does something need to be a guitar? and within that limited technology there are a myriad of sounds. you're not showing us anything that isn't already out there, and you're certainly not pushing the technology forward. add in the ugly factor, and it's a lose/lose for everybody involved. most people treat the GPOTD as a fashion show. but if that's how people see the market, then they're going to ignore you completely because you've neglected the aesthetics of the instrument in favor of function. our world simply doesn't work that way. if it did, we'd all buy clothes from Wal-Mart, by choice, because they perform the same function as clothes from anywhere else.
 
a guitar absolutely must perform. but by missing out on the aesthetic aspect, you lose the entire market. you say that guitars are all the same in regards to their technology, and that's mostly true. but just how much technology does something need to be a guitar? and within that limited technology there are a myriad of sounds. you're not showing us anything that isn't already out there, and you're certainly not pushing the technology forward. add in the ugly factor, and it's a lose/lose for everybody involved. most people treat the GPOTD as a fashion show. but if that's how people see the market, then they're going to ignore you completely because you've neglected the aesthetics of the instrument in favor of function. our world simply doesn't work that way. if it did, we'd all buy clothes from Wal-Mart, by choice, because they perform the same function as clothes from anywhere else.

Almost agreed except for so many of us who have old-favorite ugly acoustics that get >90% our play time due to mobility, so the loose->win...oh and sometimes in fashion when something solves a problem or need it may then become fashionable. The Nomad certainly makes a fashion statement whether or not you like it (and if they only full-sized the nec,amp,speaker...). And agreed that sometimes things never catch on as much as becoming tolerated or ignored (think holsters for calculators and cell phones). So a speaker may or may not someday may someday be in the fashion show. One thing comming next build is that the amp-displays are front-facing this time. it does flash... also noticed a funky place-holder with a hologram... facing similar to heavy wall paper seams possible. But this aint my job... just a hobby. Rather surprising that so few on the forums care as compared with other engineers who play guitar (at least per conversations). I did see someone making fret-lights. But that wasn't what I wanted for 20 years of playing... I've wanted amps in my guitars since they always had excessive cord noise and logistics of moving amps and cords.
 
Almost agreed except for so many of us who have old-favorite ugly acoustics that get >90% our play time due to mobility, so the loose->win...oh and sometimes in fashion when something solves a problem or need it may then become fashionable. The Nomad certainly makes a fashion statement whether or not you like it (and if they only full-sized the nec,amp,speaker...). And agreed that sometimes things never catch on as much as becoming tolerated or ignored (think holsters for calculators and cell phones). So a speaker may or may not someday may someday be in the fashion show. One thing comming next build is that the amp-displays are front-facing this time. it does flash... also noticed a funky place-holder with a hologram... facing similar to heavy wall paper seams possible. But this aint my job... just a hobby. Rather surprising that so few on the forums care as compared with other engineers who play guitar (at least per conversations). I did see someone making fret-lights. But that wasn't what I wanted for 20 years of playing... I've wanted amps in my guitars since they always had excessive cord noise and logistics of moving amps and cords.

the Nomad fails because it is poor quality. even the budget guys don't want one because they're still looking for a quality instrument at a low price.

it is no surprise that forumites who aren't engineers don't care. most guitarists don't know anything about how the instrument works. so you're trying to sell the uneducated consumer on technology. most of what they know is "that guitar looks pretty. when i step on this box, it creates distortion. louder = better." we as guitar forum denizens generally know a bit more than the average Joe Shmo. but i'm not about to get into a mathematical argument about tempered tuning either.
 
the Nomad fails because it is poor quality. even the budget guys don't want one because they're still looking for a quality instrument at a low price.
lol didn't say anyone enjoyed the Nomad fashion statement - but it has one - like an image exists.
It is no surprise that forumites who aren't engineers don't care. most guitarists don't know anything about how the instrument works. so you're trying to sell the uneducated consumer on technology. most of what they know is "that guitar looks pretty. when i step on this box, it creates distortion. louder = better." we as guitar forum denizens generally know a bit more than the average Joe Shmo. but i'm not about to get into a mathematical argument about tempered tuning either.

I've never heard of tempered tuning but would enjoy the mathematics of it. There are occasional threads where someone does make something - most often for prettyness or tubishness but at least they're following their desires and accomplishing what they want. Don't know if I'll ever sell profitably but for now at least I'm enjoying these guitars. I did see one ebay listing for a fret-light installation for guitars and have been wondering what would make sense for fassion appeal - maybe along lines of lightning bolts. Someday maybe it can be covered in iPads.. wile providing play along to the mp3/cd jack and tilt-up for lyrics and such from the internet - would top-out nicely too with a usb like my alusis 8-ch that I've stopped bothering with since youtubing rather than audio-only. Thanks for perspectives.
 
lol didn't say anyone enjoyed the Nomad fashion statement - but it has one - like an image exists.

right, but its still a shitty guitar. people would play them, even though they look dumb, if the guitars played well. they don't.

I've never heard of tempered tuning but would enjoy the mathematics of it.

i think you would. there are some pretty cool books out there on the subject.

There are occasional threads where someone does make something - most often for prettyness or tubishness but at least they're following their desires and accomplishing what they want. Don't know if I'll ever sell profitably but for now at least I'm enjoying these guitars. I did see one ebay listing for a fret-light installation for guitars and have been wondering what would make sense for fassion appeal - maybe along lines of lightning bolts. Someday maybe it can be covered in iPads.. wile providing play along to the mp3/cd jack and tilt-up for lyrics and such from the internet - would top-out nicely too with a usb like my alusis 8-ch that I've stopped bothering with since youtubing rather than audio-only. Thanks for perspectives.

see, now you're trying to do too much. guitarists can barely handle having a bridge humbucker in a stratocaster, and you want them to have built in iPads. how about leaving the computer out of the guitar and building a music stand holder for the iPad instead? (ooh, that's a really good idea!)
 
right, but its [the Nomad is ] still a shitty guitar. people would play them, even though they look dumb, if the guitars played well. they don't.
right that's why I didn't settle for the market product and built what I wanted::thu::
...see, now you're trying to do too much. guitarists can barely handle having a bridge humbucker in a stratocaster, and you want them to have built in iPads. how about leaving the computer out of the guitar and building a music stand holder for the iPad instead? (ooh, that's a really good idea!)
lol good points... still thinking of making a holder for my smart-phone on the guitar because I'm often using the guitar as my back-yard boom-box with the phone playing through it, here something and grab it while having to pocket the phone and deal with its wire. Someone had a post once of project that I loved (haters were mean to him too) where he put a preamp-effects-processor onto a mounting plate with the screws to his picguard on his strat. For me as an engineer performance should come first for such a product AS EMPHASIZING.... I've never had guitar+ noise-free amp +effects access like I have NOW. And NOW that I do I'm learning to play much better. Internal on a 7lbs guitar makes it omnipresent - the ML rules that! The Natural excells at playability and sound but is heavy for the move everywhere - especially if it were for a smaller person than me since I can still grab it with 1 hand and play.

per common guitarists you may know... ones I know mostly happen to be engineers and appreciate the concept - though don't play all that much any more (1x month, and most stopping/restarting and so-on LRRGs - and Gr8 engineers). And of them many see fine-expensive guitars more like collection/antique/investment items than instruments that get bumped everywhere the human goes. So my peers do appreciate the concept and my perspectives but mostly don't happen to want guitars in their living rooms or play much in parks and other common acoustic settings much themselves. Where I do see more real enthusiasm though is among the young guitarists with minimal budgets. EG: At the GTC stores they'res always 1 or 2 guys with no money of their own who express great appreciation of the Power Guitar concept and want to try them. Hmmm will have to pay them a visit with the new one since it really has tone. May power up build#5 soon too. ::thu::
 
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Number 5 Is Alive!

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Total weight 10.85 lbs (includes batteries but not a strap).
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11lbs actually isn't bad for what you're doing. that's less than most 70s strats and Les Pauls way.

have you considered contacting your local avante garde museum and submitting these pieces as an installation? you could show the progression from guitar to guitar and how your idea has evolved.
 
11lbs actually isn't bad for what you're doing. that's less than most 70s strats and Les Pauls way.

have you considered contacting your local avante garde museum and submitting these pieces as an installation? you could show the progression from guitar to guitar and how your idea has evolved.

Hi Help!I'maRock!, gosh thanks! I've never seen one of those avante garde museums and imagine it would be very interesting. I wouldn't quite think it worthy unless it and these blogs sparks a cottage industry and actually transforms the industry - which is a sporting-hope of mine. I do think that possibility exists because of the great enthusiasm of some young players including myself being willing to spend the time and money that I obviously have. And having done so it is self-reinforcing in that it has forced me to play more, and play better - all while choosing the built guitars over the other guitars availaible based on need at play-time (on back porch, etc).

BTW, here's pics of boxin in the batteries.
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I still need to figure out how I want to finish it. There's lots of detailing to do too - where's the perfectionist when you need one? Dad is a perfectionist and it's gr8 working projects with him - since we augment that way. Too bad he's not into guitar.
 
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Hi Help!I'maRock!, gosh thanks! I've never seen one of those avante garde museums and imagine it would be very interesting. I wouldn't quite think it worthy unless it and these blogs sparks a cottage industry and actually transforms the industry - which is a sporting-hope of mine. I do think that possibility exists because of the great enthusiasm of some young players including myself being willing to spend the time and money that I obviously have. And having done so it is self-reinforcing in that it has forced me to play more and better too.

there's an awful lot of crap in museums. done right, your pieces would be just as worthy as any. i don't think you need to transform the industry first either. in fact, such an installation might actually help your cause.

should you get the chance, i suggest getting as much info as you can on MOMA's PS1 location in Queens. weirdest art i've ever seen.
 
Ranting on the industry forces for stupidity

there's an awful lot of crap in museums. done right, your pieces would be just as worthy as any. i don't think you need to transform the industry first either. in fact, such an installation might actually help your cause.
should you get the chance, i suggest getting as much info as you can on MOMA's PS1 location in Queens. weirdest art i've ever seen.

Thanks for the pointers. I must admit I'm running out of hope for the guitar industry in a way similar to how I saw the home-audio-market fail to appreciate quality products and instead people bought junk so much that today good stuff is very hard to come by. As an example, most speakers for the home are now designed to project rather than disperse sound (like PA speakers) in order to be selected in the demo-room at whatever store. Further, most have ported cabs for "fuller" base but that actually makes the base-mid turn to total crap distortion (true w/ guitar amps too). Oh and btw that's the sort of crap that doesn't help a guitar signal in any way other than total volume.

So now that I have enough Power Guitars for myself it's become just a curiosity if I can make one better... but at some point why bother, especially since I need to fix my bike. I saw an old Ovation-1183 for $169 today as well as a POS with nice wood-grain for $65 - AND PASSED up the temptations. But I did just buy the Vox DA5 to try in something. Also saw a nice Ibenez TCM50VBSVTG for $279 - doesn't have much sound as an acoustic but would "look pretty" ... if I wanted to take the risk of working on something that delicate with intent to sell to a market that doesn't understand it's own technology... prolly won't bother much more than I already have.

Another technology example is that Dave Mustang is the ONLY guitarist I've yet heard of who even cares about the tuning-peg-layout. I didn't care much either till I figured out the technology of it. But now that I'm onto it it explains problems I had in playing for years - so who knows maybe if the info gets around things will change - but it sure looks like it would take a lot longer than I had originally imagined.

Ok that's a rant... prolly just a little fustrated... {edit} BTW I will look up that museum you mentioned more as a curiosity if I go to NYC - I would definately enjoy a museum like that more than the wax or dinosaurs. Thanks again for the mojo:thu:
 
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The Best Head Ever Yet Buit!

who the fuck is Dave Mustang?

a pretty fucking good guitarist (megadeth, metalica, )!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Mustaine
If you notice the head on his Dean guitar... he's the guy that got Dean to make a model just for him with that head design:
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Even though he was smart enough to figure that out notice the tail-piece isn't straignt but instead introduces the partially-lenght-matching for the standard head peg-layout... one can only hope that as lovers of guitars we all start to figure this stuff out. BTW, Power Guitar #1 is back in "Shit Head" status in that the nut was split when the head broke - and when I glued it it only held till now (not something to glue).
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Still waiting for the new Vox DA5 for another projct. I definately am appreciating the string layout on this new Laguna based Power Guitar - it plays really nice except that the stupid amp has a crackle in it. Nothing seems to affect the crackle either - so it's gota be internal to it. The other one doesn't have that issue but doesn't stay in tune as well when using the wammy bar... perhapse with a little more of that head-fixin...

Check this length-optimization... but it's slightly old since I've I've got another single-rounder-peg in it now...
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edit: Ok here's the current layout. I just tested it head to head against the Laguna and it's the same. That is on the fith-fret E-string'd A vs open A, the open A is slightly sharp on both and all the strings have higher string slightly sharp except for the G string is flat on both. Thus my impression is that the string-lengths should be slightly lower-lenth-changing except between the D&G should be a bigger gap. Still this is excellent for what it is being as good as the shark-tooth. It also sort of proves my L-concept in that there should be a break between the 2 sides.

So where does this go? Well this becomes the best head yet buit! That is because I can move my peg to the top-left and will have the closest thing to the ideal layout yet built - unless someone researched it and I just never heard since he was prolly told stfu or whatever:wink: Thanks for asking about Dave Mustang. He's been inspirational though wish he had less anger oriented stuff to groove to.
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Torch-Finished hmmm still need to name it... be nice offering ideas:wink:

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Yes I did use the welding torch to stain the wood. And no not after applying the urathane... I had a no. 2 welding tip with a very oxidizing flame.

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Visiting Daddys

Always fun visiting the guitar shop. Just picked up this Ovation and it was cheep ($120 with a Copley acoustic base that was only that much a couple years ago!). Here's a video of Scott (store mgr) trying out the Natural.

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And a customer who wanted to try it too. He said the weight was fine and enjoyed it. Notice it's competing with the drum (an acoustic walking around on a strap wouldn't be able to do that).
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I picked up this Ovation for an amazing deal:
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I like the bridge-rollers which I've already lubricated (they were stuck), and the head-shape. Still intentend a peg in the head to re-set string lengths more how I want them someday. Boy this guitar sure plays nicely. Tried it into a fender Champ and home my FM212DSP. Must admit that Fender Champion has a very nice sound for home/practice.
 
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