24 years. Let's argue about whether grunge was good or bad again.
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Peen Simmons
Let’s Get Obtuse!
That’s a cool record, DBro. But that’s primo alternarock. Not dudetastic or hairy enough for GRUNGE!
Peen Simmons
Let’s Get Obtuse!
Probably. Although she had her big hit during the alt-rock moment...when al the stuff that wasn’t quite Grunge but was clearly grunge-adjacent was being sold to teenagers.
sunvalleylaw
Yep.
Potential band name for old dad rock band I might be a part of.
Knox in Box
Rustbelt refugee.
Now we're talking about a superior product.
I loved grunge at least Nirvana, Soundgarden, AIC and Screaming Trees.
There seemed to be an integrity to their music that the groups that followed were only phoning in. Of course, someone will come along and say I'm terribly wrong.
I don't really understand all of the Foo Fighters hate tbh. Seems they were well liked for quite a long time by many here only to be dropped like a hot potato where everyone now claims to never have liked the potato. Sure their last two albums sucked, but what has anyone here released?
DdBob
Dogue in teh desert
Yeah I knew that...jus' trying to pull Sunny's leg is all
I do remember they used to always play the Feed the trees video in with all the "grunge" stuff. Can't remember if it was MTV or a local access cable channel we had that used to play "deeper" "hits" of teh grungs, stuff like TAD and what not.
DdBob
Dogue in teh desert
Last I checked sales releases had nothing to do with Good or Bad music. Sometimes music is bad a, derivative, "paint by the numbers" overly formulated and it sells and other times brilliant wonderful idiosyncratic music never sells even though it is great and vice versa.
VoidTerraFirma
Live to wine
That’s the magic of Vedder.
sunvalleylaw
Yep.
See, like others say about the Foos, which I enjoy for who they are, but do not find them to be as moving as Nirvana was, I also wonder about all the Vedder hate.
Sure, at the time, I grabbed a Nirvana CD first. But I liked both. I just don't get why everyone piles on Eddie. Because he lived? Because they still play and often play some of their older hits as part of the setlist?
So I liked both singers and both bands. And AIC next, then Soundgarden, and though they weren't from the area, loved me some STP. By the time Bush and Nickelback etc. came around, I felt the "movement" if that is what it was, had lost its original energy, even if I still liked some of the stuff coming out. But those are just my feelings on the subject.
Again about the Foo Fighters, that first album that was basically all Dave was my favorite, and only one I owned, for years and years.
Knox in Box
Rustbelt refugee.
And I said nothing of album sales.
DdBob
Dogue in teh desert
True BUT any discussion of Foo Fighters inherently has sales either overtly or covertly tied to it. they were the biggest selling band for quite a while and coming from Nirvan " Corporate music sucks" (even though that was primarily Kurt and Krist) justs reeks of hypocrisy
DdBob
Dogue in teh desert
still the best thing Pearl jam ever did...such a nice uptempo tune and that riff...oh that riff
VoidTerraFirma
Live to wine
Danhedonia
Noted duckfat enthusiast
I have a million stories, but the 'good' ones are not for the internet (esp. as I am now a teacher).
How about a few bullet points for now?
* Greg Dulli on stage, talking back at a heckler wearing a frat-boy back-hat. "Take your hat off if you're heckling me .... and be there, when I feed the tree." It was that month, and for reasons I can't quite figure out, hilarious.
* Saw Courtney get beer slowly poured over her by a bandmate on the Lollapalooza tour, backstage. Don't remember which, but remember thinking "these people really don't get along well at all."
* Mark Arm introducing every song at one gig as "this next one .... this is 'The Money's Gonna Roll Right In' by Pearl Jam" after kids in the crowd kept yelling for Pearl Jam. Mark Arm is a glorious individual.
* Was told by a member of a very, very unimpressive "alternaband" to find him some cocaine in Omaha at 2 a.m. I informed him that he was talent, and basically worked for me, and that was how he ought to look at things. It's possible I articulated this a bit differently. I will say that this was not a career move for me, but oh fucking well.
* In the days when shit was juuuuuuust beginning to blow up, I recall being at a day job, and getting a call at my desk in my cubicle from the secretary of a big wig at Sony. They heard I was friends with a band they were trying to sign - could I take a meeting? I then recall how freaky it was that they meant right away, as in "there's a 4
0 p.m. flight we can put you on, and we'll pick you up at LaGuardia and you can be here for dinner. OK?" My boss was a bit star-struck by some of what I did and said "go ahead," which in hindsight is one reason I'm still friendly with him.
* I still have no idea - STILL - why anyone thought Bis deserved a 7 figure advance. What am I missing here?
How about a few bullet points for now?
* Greg Dulli on stage, talking back at a heckler wearing a frat-boy back-hat. "Take your hat off if you're heckling me .... and be there, when I feed the tree." It was that month, and for reasons I can't quite figure out, hilarious.
* Saw Courtney get beer slowly poured over her by a bandmate on the Lollapalooza tour, backstage. Don't remember which, but remember thinking "these people really don't get along well at all."
* Mark Arm introducing every song at one gig as "this next one .... this is 'The Money's Gonna Roll Right In' by Pearl Jam" after kids in the crowd kept yelling for Pearl Jam. Mark Arm is a glorious individual.
* Was told by a member of a very, very unimpressive "alternaband" to find him some cocaine in Omaha at 2 a.m. I informed him that he was talent, and basically worked for me, and that was how he ought to look at things. It's possible I articulated this a bit differently. I will say that this was not a career move for me, but oh fucking well.
* In the days when shit was juuuuuuust beginning to blow up, I recall being at a day job, and getting a call at my desk in my cubicle from the secretary of a big wig at Sony. They heard I was friends with a band they were trying to sign - could I take a meeting? I then recall how freaky it was that they meant right away, as in "there's a 4
0 p.m. flight we can put you on, and we'll pick you up at LaGuardia and you can be here for dinner. OK?" My boss was a bit star-struck by some of what I did and said "go ahead," which in hindsight is one reason I'm still friendly with him.* I still have no idea - STILL - why anyone thought Bis deserved a 7 figure advance. What am I missing here?
Chad
Slender Hobbit
I’ll admit, I don’t think I’ve heard anything from them except Hunger Strike, but I disliked that song so much, I didn’t even bother to listen to anything else. Much like if Black Hole Sun was the first Soundgarden song I’d heard from them, I wouldn’t have listened to anything else. Luckily, I bought Louder Than Love when it came out.
Danhedonia
Noted duckfat enthusiast
Can we get some love for "Big Dumb Sex?"
sunvalleylaw
Yep.
Saw PJ in 2012 in Montana, and Arm and Mudhoney opened. Played a good long set, and Arm joined for a good long time as part of the second encore set. Eddie particularly urged the crowd to support and thank Mudhoney for playing for them. It is still one of my favorite ever concerts.
yabba
Weird Pick Butt Person
I think louder than love was BY FAR their best album and they went way downhill after it
DdBob
Dogue in teh desert
are you sayin' Even Flow is better ?