OMG Politics, I'm over it already Mk III, The Search for Spock

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VoidTerraFirma said:
Just pointing out that America has plenty of “third-parties” and one could absolutely make a case that Trump is really a third party candidate that usurped the GOP...and that’s significant part of his appeal. The same would apply to Sanders.
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Actually, Trump isn't the first "third party" to usurp the GOP. Do the words "Tea Party" mean anything to you? Because the GOP has ceased to stand for anything beyond adherence to whatever their corporate masters desire at any given moment, they are ripe for such incursions. The Democratic party is also increasingly becoming a relic and thus subject to periodic uprisings. I think that there may be openings in the not-distant future for the stranglehold the two-party system has on the US political landscape to be broken. There is nothing in our laws - it is merely custom and inertia - that requires our system be held hostage by two parties...
 
Help!I'maRock! said:
Unlikely. Though moving to California and voting as a veritable outsider, it does look like I'll vote for Newsom in the hope he's Jerry Brown II: Electric Boogaloo.
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Pretty much. Gavin is progressive through and through. Kind of smug too, but that is who he is.
 
bsman said:
Actually, Trump isn't the first "third party" to usurp the GOP. Do the words "Tea Party" mean anything to you? Because the GOP has ceased to stand for anything beyond adherence to whatever their corporate masters desire at any given moment, they are ripe for such incursions. The Democratic party is also increasingly becoming a relic and thus subject to periodic uprisings. I think that there may be openings in the not-distant future for the stranglehold the two-party system has on the US political landscape to be broken. There is nothing in our laws - it is merely custom and inertia - that requires our system be held hostage by two parties...
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in a perfect (correct) country, there wouldn't be any parties. only what's good for the country and it's citizens. nothing else. no platforms. no posturing. none of it.
 
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https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/19/trump-border-wall-funding-immigration-653530

Trump loses temper over border wall funding
 
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Hm... Dutch politicians want to summon the US ambassador over the family separation issues... Now, as terrible as it is, summoning the ambassador of a sovereign nation over this while Europe hasn't exactly got the cleanest hands in trying to get the immigration waves under control is IMHO more than just a bit hypocritical...
 
 
ColourofFire said:
Hm... Dutch politicians want to summon the US ambassador over the family separation issues... Now, as terrible as it is, summoning the ambassador of a sovereign nation over this while Europe hasn't exactly got the cleanest hands in trying to get the immigration waves under control is IMHO more than just a bit hypocritical...
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I assume Wilders has already spoken against summoning the US ambassador?
 
wok said:
I assume Wilders has already spoken against summoning the US ambassador?
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Nothing about his opinion in the news. Then again, even if it was, the racist drivel that that imbecile spouts is just white noise to me these days. He's like a drug addict spiralling out of control. He becomes more of a charicature of himself by the week.

It's only two parties (D66 and CU) that want to summon the ambassador btw, so not as noteworthy as it seemed when it was trickling in. Still, kind of an overreaction.
 
mongooz said:
so, you folks have got one too.
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Yup, had this guy for years, he was around way before Trump was even considering running. Though recently he seemes to have really lost the plot.

Here's the fucknut's wikipedia page if you're interested: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geert_Wilders

Nowadays he's big buddies with AfD and Pegida and I think he has a little wank over a picture of the orange buffoon every night. Basically he hates the Islam, he used to have more points like being anti-EU and god knows what. But nowadays all that leaves his mouth is anti-islam Trumpisms. It's pretty hilarious that the more he tries to emulate the orange buffoon, the deeper he sinks in the polls.
 
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