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TomcatMF said:
Another example is Lord of the Rings. At least the author later wrote a forward explaining there was no allegory attached to the story. It was just a fantasy story.
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Highernoon said:
As far as I remember from literary classes, some schools (or at least a very influential one) see the author's intention as irrelevant to the text's meaning.
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<pedantry> I've often heard that over the years, but after reading the books several times over the course of decades, and also reading of Tolkein's feelings on the devastation wrought by industrialization on the British landscape and people, and particularly of his horrific experiences in WWI, I have to wonder if maybe he doth protest too much in disavowing allegory in this particular work.

Perhaps it wasn't consciously intentional, but the parallels and influence of these things on the LOTR series are far too plainly clear for it to be "just a fantasy story". Perhaps it's a case of him not wishing to see the forest for the trees, or of him being somehow embarrassed by it in hindsight (feeling it to be too pretentious, maybe?). But JRRT saying that there's no correlation between the horrors of war he experienced and the aftermath of Man's domination of Nature in his own country is akin to, say, Picasso claiming later that his painting Guernica made no comment on fascism: you can deny it all you want, but the commentary you deny is writ large for the whole world to see. </pedantry>
 
GDSmithTX said:
<pedantry> I've often heard that over the years, but after reading the books several times over the course of decades, and also reading of Tolkein's feelings on the devastation wrought by industrialization on the British landscape and people, and particularly of his horrific experiences in WWI, I have to wonder if maybe he doth protest too much in disavowing allegory in this particular work.

Perhaps it wasn't consciously intentional, but the parallels and influence of these things on the LOTR series are far too plainly clear for it to be "just a fantasy story". Perhaps it's a case of him not wishing to see the forest for the trees, or of him being somehow embarrassed by it in hindsight (feeling it to be too pretentious, maybe?). But JRRT saying that there's no correlation between the horrors of war he experienced and the aftermath of Man's domination of Nature in his own country is akin to, say, Picasso claiming later that his painting Guernica made no comment on fascism: you can deny it all you want, but the commentary you deny is writ large for the whole world to see. </pedantry>
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Relax, man!
 
Dexter Inferno said:
Relax, man!
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Sorry. I've spent the last week helping care for my beloved elderly uncle who is dying of inoperable esophageal/lung cancer in the ICU, staying all night and working during the day. I worked it out and I've been averaging 3.5 hrs of sleep a night for the last seven days. I'm loopy and irritable and in dire need of adult conversation, levity and to play my guitars.

Sorry again.
 
GDSmithTX said:
Sorry. I've spent the last week helping care for my beloved elderly uncle who is dying of inoperable esophageal/lung cancer in the ICU, staying all night and working during the day. I worked it out and I've been averaging 3.5 hrs of sleep a night for the last seven days. I'm loopy and irritable and in dire need of adult conversation, levity and to play my guitars.

Sorry again.
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Sorry, had no idea it was that bad.
My bad, and without getting too political....whatever you do, don't vote for the Orange one.
 
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