Let's Have a Funny Pic Thread! Mk 39

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TomcatMF said:
My Dad worked for the D.O.D. as a civilian, and from the stories he told me, that joke isn't far from the truth.
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It sort of depends. I worked for the DoD for the first three years of my post-college career. While most of the folks I met were very devoted and hard-working there were some notorious slackers (just as there are in any organization). The difference is that it's easier to cut loose the deadwood in most private orgs than it is in a federal agency, so the layabouts tend to hang on longer there....
 
bsman said:
It sort of depends. I worked for the DoD for the first three years of my post-college career. While most of the folks I met were very devoted and hard-working there were some notorious slackers (just as there are in any organization). The difference is that it's easier to cut loose the deadwood in most private orgs than it is in a federal agency, so the layabouts tend to hang on longer there....
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I worked for the Navy for nine years (well, some of that was on/off as an intern).

Yes, there were dedicated, hard working people, but there were a lot of slackers. The problem is that the government actually encourages slacking and punishes anyone with motivation who cares about their work.

When you work for the DoD, no matter what you do, there is at least one group (probably more) in an independent chain of command that is essentially dedicated to seeing that you do not get your job done. As a result, no one is ever blamed for failure to get anything done because there are SO many obstacles in place.

On the other hand, fuck-ups are serious business for you, and more importantly, your management chain.

This severe punishment for screwups coupled with no expectations of success breeds an environment where just not doing anything is not only acceptable, but actually preferred.

For the first few years, it's kind of amusing. It's kind of like living the movie "Catch-22". After a while, it gets soul crushingly depressing.
 
bsman said:
This is an illustration of why I think statistics should be a requirement for high school graduation. If you don't have at least a nodding familiarity with stats, you cannot be an informed consumer/voter/human because 'statistics' are so often misused and uncritically accepted.
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how about if we back up a bit and start with basic civics requirements first.
government and how it (supposedly) works
the bill of rights and what is NOT covered (insighting insurection is NOT free speech)
etc. :idea:

then we get to stats.
 
mongooz said:
how about if we back up a bit and start with basic civics requirements first.
government and how it (supposedly) works
the bill of rights and what is NOT covered (insighting insurection is NOT free speech)
etc. :idea:

then we get to stats.
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I think (at least in most states) civics was (or at least were back in the Bronze Age when I was in HS) a requirement for graduation!
 
bsman said:
I think (at least in most states) civics was (or at least were back in the Bronze Age when I was in HS) a requirement for graduation!
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yes, in most states, it was or some version of it was. but nobody seems to know that these days, and i'm not talking about just youngun's.
the cosplay preppers/oath keepers/proud boys/etc. clearly don't understand the constitution. their perception of "freedom" is quite distorted.
just because the government doesn't pursue every little infraction does not mean that they have the freedom to continue breaking the law.
 
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