Let's Have a Funny Pic Thread! Mk 39

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mongooz said:
i've always thought about how all the different foods got discovered by the earliest bipeds.
how did they figure out what was safe and not, besides someone trying it and dying?
after a few of them died from what they ate, how did they have the stones to try new things?

like there are things that animals eat, that will put a human in the ER.
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Medicine, drugs, and poisons are generally on a continuum--the matter is dosage. Generations of lore, traditions, and the rhythms of the seasons fill in the rest. All the brain power we devote to knowing a good price on Powerade and our favorite dish at macaroni grill was devoted to reading edibility cues from foods in the wild.
 
Chicken Man said:
Medicine, drugs, and poisons are generally on a continuum--the matter is dosage. Generations of lore, traditions, and the rhythms of the seasons fill in the rest. All the brain power we devote to knowing a good price on Powerade and our favorite dish at macaroni grill was devoted to reading edibility cues from foods in the wild.
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yea, but i'm not talking about "generations of lore", i'm talking about "cavemen" at the earliest times. who was the guy who said (looking at a head of broccoli), "hey, that looks interesting, i'm eating that."
 
mongooz said:
yea, but i'm not talking about "generations of lore", i'm talking about "cavemen" at the earliest times. who was the guy who said (looking at a head of broccoli), "hey, that looks interesting, i'm eating that."
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I know you don't want me to go item for item with you, but broccoli (along with cauliflower, cabbage, turnips, and others) would have started with a kale-ish green that every critter in the forest tucks in on. All the variations stem from cultivation and selection.

As a broader thought, the preference for veggies to this day are for young, tender, "baby" veggies, which would have lower concentrations of any toxins. In the present day, pokeweed (made infamous in "Poke Salad Annie") at maturity is deadly/medicinal, but is delicious and safe as a shoot. I'd reckon primitive people would continue eating these shoots as they grew, until they became unpalatable due to increasing, but still non-lethal, levels of the toxin.
 
Chicken Man said:
I know you don't want me to go item for item with you, but broccoli (along with cauliflower, cabbage, turnips, and others) would have started with a kale-ish green that every critter in the forest tucks in on. All the variations stem from cultivation and selection.

As a broader thought, the preference for veggies to this day are for young, tender, "baby" veggies, which would have lower concentrations of any toxins. In the present day, pokeweed (made infamous in "Poke Salad Annie") at maturity is deadly/medicinal, but is delicious and safe as a shoot. I'd reckon primitive people would continue eating these shoots as they grew, until they became unpalatable due to increasing, but still non-lethal, levels of the toxin.
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Indeed, Brassica oleracea is the species of plant that makes cabbage, broccoli, cauliflower, kale, brussels sprouts, collard greens, romanesco and several other food items. If you take the genus Brassica in general, a few other species adds in mustard, turnips, and rape seed/canola oil. Pretty crazy that all of these cultivars come from some wild cabbage plants.
 
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