What I Learned At A Music Store

[Grave Bomber]

What a surprise, JJ starting a well planned shitstor....er...social educational lesson about the world of music and musicians. Again. With all his catchphrases. Again. Starting shit. Again. Because he can. Again.

Gee, this place sure was lacking without him.

Welcome back.

 

[James Franciscus]

EDIT: Fuck it, back on my ignore list you go. Eat a bag of dicks, Jammity.

 

[Help!I'maRock!]

I KNOW

But thanks for the tips.

Wanna buy a rebuilt DOD Classic Fuzz?

 

[James Franciscus]

What a surprise, JJ starting a well planned shitstor....er...social educational lesson about the world of music and musicians. Again. With all his catchphrases. Again. Starting shit. Again. Because he can. Again.

Gee, this place sure was lacking without him.

Welcome back.

Reading is fundamental. Just shop responsibly and don't be a Cry Baby McWhiny Pants. Young guitarists can all use some good advice.

 

[James Franciscus]

I understand it can be frustrating to see guys taking home guitar after guitar when they can hardly manipulate one themselves but honestly it's their money and their prerogative. I myself know a guy who literally just started playing less than 3 years ago. He's got a teacher and a American Standard Strat, a PRS Custom 24 and a Fender Jazz bass. He's a surgeon so he can afford all of that stuff. He primarily bought it because his daughter was learning keyboards and wanted a daddy/daughter activity to get into. But honestly, if he's just learning Foo Fighters songs for his own enjoyment whats the harm?

None of his kids are going hungry and his wife and he have all their bills paid so even if it's obnoxious and but makes the guy happy no problem.

I do know there are plenty of guys who are not doing much with their stuff. It's a bummer. Maybe if you know a guy like that you can ask to borrow some of their gear.

Do you actually believe that being wealthy and being able to purchase whatever you want is the same thing as Gear Acquizition Syndrome (GAS) and having an irrational compulsion to buy guitar gear? I never said that people shouldn't purchase what they want.

I'm concerned with novice guitarists who waste their money and not supporting neurotic behavior. Sure I sold a guy a Fender relic that was a pure impulse buy, but I could tell something was going on with him that wasn't stable.

 

[sunvalleylaw]

Ultimately, nothing is going to get you where you want to go except learning to play. But once you learn how to play, you also need to know what goes into a circuit and why they sound different. I'm not saying everyone needs to be an electrical engineer. But if you know that almost all amps are some variation of a Fender or Vox (I consider Marshall and Mesa as Fender variants), and that most pedals are also tweaked versions of similar circuits, you're going to be a lot happier. And a lot richer.

Yeah, anyone who has seen my pedal board knows I have way more dirt pedals than I need. Fortunately, most were used, and did not cost me much. I also probably own at least one more guitar than I really need. I agree with Howie, and get a little of the point of what the OP was saying.

But, at least one of the guitars and a couple of the pedals turned into fun projects that were worth it to me in entertainment value regardless of my true musical skills or needs. So the retail dude that sneers at a customer considering merchandise does not always see or know the full picture And for sure, I don't get the gender attack thing, and don't think his point needed to be said that way.

I am not a HC guy and know there is history here I am not aware of. But smells to me of button pushing and trolling. If it is not that, then it is very poorly worded commentary with a lot of unnecessary insults and condescension thrown in.

I'm one of those guys who buys shit he doesn't need and can't use. Luckily for me, I'm also a cheapskate, so it's usually a used Boss effect rather than a brand new boutique effect. And I know the pentatonic scale.
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this is close too.

 

[Help!I'maRock!]

Yeah, anyone who has seen my pedal board knows I have way more dirt pedals than I need. Fortunately, most were used, and did not cost me much. I also probably own at least one more guitar than I really need. I agree with Howie, and get a little of the point of what the OP was saying.

I'm down to two dual function dirt pedals on my main board. The Double Pickle Drive and the Z-Vex Super Duper. I also have an MI Audio Tube Zone, DOD Classic Fuzz, RAT clone, and a Way Huge Angry Troll. I don't think I could possibly use any more than those.

But I don't get the gender attack thing, and don't think his point needed to be said that way. I am not a HC guy and know there is history here I am not aware of. But smells to me of button pushing and trolling. If it is not that, then it is very poorly worded commentary with a lot of unnecessary insults and condescension thrown in.

Jammity being Jammity. It is what it is.

 

[sunvalleylaw]

What a surprise, JJ starting a well planned shitstor....er...social educational lesson about the world of music and musicians. Again. With all his catchphrases. Again. Starting shit. Again. Because he can. Again.

Gee, this place sure was lacking without him.

Welcome back.

Some people enjoy shit storms. I prefer snow storms. And guitar forums without shit storms.

 

[sunvalleylaw]

I'm down to two dual function dirt pedals on my main board. The Double Pickle Drive and the Z-Vex Super Duper. I also have an MI Audio Tube Zone, DOD Classic Fuzz, RAT clone, and a Way Huge Angry Troll. I don't think I could possibly use any more than those.



Jammity being Jammity. It is what it is.

Ok, you have more than I do. But you are playing more and are in a more active band as I recall. Still, the few bucks I have invested in several dirt boxes doesn't chap me too much.

 

[Help!I'maRock!]

Ok, you have more than I do. But you are playing more and are in a more active band as I recall. Still, the few bucks I have invested in several dirt boxes doesn't chap me too much.

I've been rehearsing in two bands for a while now. My original project's debut is this Saturday.

http://markweinguitarlessons.com/forums/threads/the-portable-forest-debuts.57263/#post-925732

Regarding dirt pedals (and gear in general), my only advice is not to buy anything because you think it might be good. Know what you want, why you want it, and why it does something you don't already have. Then buy it.

 

[sunvalleylaw]

I've been rehearsing in two bands for a while now. My original project's debut is this Saturday.

http://markweinguitarlessons.com/forums/threads/the-portable-forest-debuts.57263/#post-925732

I knew you were busy musically. Cool, I will check out the thread. One you are playing bass, right?

As for me and my little band, the reason for holding on to as many dirt pedals as I have is to find what will work well, and set that up with the amp that will get used. The Peavey takes pedals quite a bit differently than the Concert. And it is the one that will likely get used more out. But that is really a discussion for a different thread. Time to get off the computer and play my guitar and practice for a bit.

 

[Help!I'maRock!]

I knew you were busy musically. Cool, I will check out the thread. One you are playing bass, right?

I'm playing bass in a power pop cover band named The Stand-Ins. We have yet to get out of the rehearsal studio, but we're almost there.

As for me and my little band, the reason for holding on to as many dirt pedals as I have is to find what will work well, and set that up with the amp that will get used. The Peavey takes pedals quite a bit differently than the Concert. And it is the one that will likely get used more out. But that is really a discussion for a different thread. Time to get off the computer and play my guitar and practice for a bit.

You're going to find that everything sounds different through everything. Learn what you like, what your knobs do, and how to compensate. You'll be fine.

 

[aliensporebomb]

Do you actually believe that being wealthy and being able to purchase whatever you want is the same thing as Gear Acquizition Syndrome (GAS) and having an irrational compulsion to buy guitar gear? I never said that people shouldn't purchase what they want.

I'm concerned with novice guitarists who waste their money and not supporting neurotic behavior. Sure I sold a guy a Fender relic that was a pure impulse buy, but I could tell something was going on with him that wasn't stable.

Well, there's that. There's always those who buy things to feel better when things in life aren't going their way. Obviously, buying something will be a short lived panacea for that person. What to do? Guitar shop is a business. But maybe people should display a "stable mental health certificate" before buying anything beyond a particular skill level.

 

[335clone]

smells to me of button pushing and trolling. If it is not that, then it is very poorly worded commentary with a lot of unnecessary insults and condescension thrown in.

Those are the same things. Learn and Return.

 

[Mark Wein]

Its amazing how folks just fall into the same old patterns. I can't get my 8 year old son to quit yelling at his 5 year old sister when she does something on purpose to antagonize him for attention. This thread is a lot like our morning drive to school except for my daughter hasn't learned the phrase "stop being a pussy" yet.