What I Learned At A Music Store

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James Franciscus

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I've never done music retail. A friend asked me to fill in for a couple of days helping out at the coolest music store in the LA area. This is what I learned:

Guitar stores prey on people who should be in therapy three days a week. I sold a bunch of stuff to people who were terrible players who just had to have that Les Paul, that Relic'd Strat, and that boutique stomp box that's cooler than anything in the whole world.

It was really kind of sickening after a while. They're dropping tons of cash on stuff that will end up in their closet. They already have fourteen guitars and they suck on those guitars just like they suck on the new one I just sold him. I was talking to a customer and his mind completely left our conversation when he over heard someone talking about custom PAFs. As if that's important. Guitar ADD. He can't even play a chord in tune and he's concerned with up grading a Les Paul he hasn't even taken home yet.

These compulsive types are obviously buying all this crap to avoid whatever crappy reality they're living. It's sad and fucked up. You rarely see people in the store who actually use this stuff as tools. Real musicians get what they need and use it. They don't just keep buying more and more stuff until they're broke and homeless.


Then there's the 60-something blues expert guy with good chops who drags his wife/girl friend in and starts lecturing about how the '69 Gibson SG was a major departure from '68 Gibson SG because of the change in paint, materials, and the pick guard. Me and the other salesmen are like, "Dude. Just shut the fuck up and write a damn song."

Meanwhile, his wife/girl friend is tolerating these lectures and wishes she could just put a gun in her mouth and go to a happy place. For the most part, women don't care about any of this shit. They may like music, but they could give two shits about how it's made. They like songs. Fuck noodling.


Then there are the women. Women get a lot of crap in the guitar world and rightly so. While the women I've interviewed for VG and my show are in the top 1% of sheer badass virtuosity, 99.9% of the women who walk in a guitar store have no clue about anything guitar related. And if they do they play like meek little girls who gingerly play the guitar like they're afraid they're going to hurt it's feelings. That's where the "Plays like a girl" thing comes from. Female guitar virtuosos hate when they hear that, but it's real, and they only have themselves to blame. Most women play like girls.

I filled in at a great store but I could see women like this going into GC and getting taken advantage of by douche-masters selling crap they don't need, or crap their boyfriend won't like. Not everybody can be a guitar player and that's ok.

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Full disclosure. I went through a compulsive phase myself many years ago. That's how I know gear is evil and the whole industry is a racket. The universe will not support 87 flavors of fuzz pedals.
 
That is why I love looking at the used gear. Those dudes are the ones trading it in for something new and lose out on gem that they had.
 
It's a consumer society running rampant...if they weren't buying guitars it would be something else...
 
I'm not sure how they are "preying" on anyone. Where they tricking those folks into buying something? It's not for you to decide who needs a particular item. What is the level of proficiency one must achieve in your mind before they should be permitted to purchase said Les Paul?

Who cares what some "blues guy's" girlfriend has to listen to? Maybe she likes it, who knows. Unless he's abusing her in your presence, what do you care about the state of their relationship or how they choose to spend their time?

Furthermore, while I respect your abilities, who are your to judge how a girl chooses to play her guitar? It's hers to do with as she pleases. maybe she lacks the confidence to play with abandon because she's worried about being judged by someone who does't know her from a whole in the wall. I thought music was art and that art was an expression of the individual. So let her express herself as she she sees fit. She's not doing it for your approval.

It sounds to me like you and your friend are the typical judgmental types, that like to sit on top of their mountain as a cashier at a retail store and mock those who don't live up to your contrived standards of who should or should not be allowed to included in their little club. Posts like your's are the reason beginners are afraid to try guitars in a store for fear of being made fun of by the self proclaimed gatekeepers of the music kingdom who, let me say this one more time to drive the point home, work at a retail guitar store.

Now there is nothing wrong with working in a retail guitar store, but it doesn't give you license to mock those who don't live up to your standards. Do your job and help them on their journey and make them comfortable in their current abilities.

You of all people Oscar should know better.
 
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I'm not sure how they are "preying" on anyone. Where they tricking those folks into buying something? It's not for you to decide who needs a particular item. What is the level of proficiency one must achieve in your mind before they should be permitted to purchase said Les Paul?

Who cares what some "blues guy's" girlfriend has to listen to? Maybe she likes it, who knows. Unless he's abusing her in your presence, what do you care about the state of their relationship or how they choose to spend their time?

Furthermore, while I respect your abilities, who are your to judge how a girl chooses to play her guitar? It's hers to do with as she pleases. maybe she lacks the confidence to play with abandon because she's worried about being judged by someone who does't know her from a whole in the wall. I thought music was art and that art was an expression of the individual. So let her express herself as she she sees fit. She's not doing it for your approval.

It sounds to me like you and your friend are the typical judgmental types, that like to sit on top of their mountain as a cashier at a retail store and mock those who don't live up to your contrived standards of who should or should not be allowed to included in their little club. Posts like your's are the reason beginners are afraid to try guitars in a store for fear of being made fun of by the self proclaimed gatekeepers of the music kingdom who, let me say this one more time to drive the point home, work at a retail guitar store.

Now there is nothing wrong with working in a retail guitar store, but it doesn't give you license to mock those who don't live up to your standards. Do your job and help them on their journey and make them comfortable in their current abilities.

You of all people Oscar should know better.

this... i agree with what you said... 100%... the OP sounds like a d-bag.

Is this really Oscar? I'd be shocked....
 
I'm not sure how they are "preying" on anyone. Where they tricking those folks into buying something? It's not for you to decide who needs a particular item. What is the level of proficiency one must achieve in your mind before they should be permitted to purchase said Les Paul?

Who cares what some "blues guy's" girlfriend has to listen to? Maybe she likes it, who knows. Unless he's abusing her in your presence, what do you care about the state of their relationship or how they choose to spend their time?

Furthermore, while I respect your abilities, who are your to judge how a girl chooses to play her guitar? It's hers to do with as she pleases. maybe she lacks the confidence to play with abandon because she's worried about being judged by someone who does't know her from a whole in the wall. I thought music was art and that art was an expression of the individual. So let her express herself as she she sees fit. She's not doing it for your approval.

It sounds to me like you and your friend are the typical judgmental types, that like to sit on top of their mountain as a cashier at a retail store and mock those who don't live up to your contrived standards of who should or should not be allowed to included in their little club. Posts like your's are the reason beginners are afraid to try guitars in a store for fear of being made fun of by the self proclaimed gatekeepers of the music kingdom who, let me say this one more time to drive the point home, work at a retail guitar store.

Now there is nothing wrong with working in a retail guitar store, but it doesn't give you license to mock those who don't live up to your standards. Do your job and help them on their journey and make them comfortable in their current abilities.

You of all people Oscar should know better.

Lighten up Francis. Thou doth protest way to much. I just don't believe in setting up a full bar at an AA meeting. And I can judge whatever I want because I'm not dead inside and I know crazy when I see it.
 
I find it difficult to imagine that a business would target customers who don't really need their goods.
 
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Lighten up Francis. Thou doth protest way to much. I just don't believe in setting up a full bar at an AA meeting. And I can judge whatever I want because I'm not dead inside and I know crazy when I see it.


Let's review. You post a thread full of condescending comments about CUSTOMERS at a store you are filling it at. You are completely dismissive of 99% of an entire gender's musical abilities, and you think you are capable of determining someone's musical net worth based on your 20 minute interaction at a music store.

I have been at the other end of your type of condensation when trying gear, and it sucks. Perhaps you were born with Jeff Beck's abilities, the rest of us were not. We had to struggle, and fail, and keep struggling to improve. You should recognize this, and be empathetic.

I'm sure you would also be one to lament the decline of Mom & Pop stores and music in general at the same time you sneer at those who are the very people who support those stores.

Maybe you should think more about how you see other people.
 
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Let's review. You post a thread full of condescending comments about CUSTOMERS at a store you are filling it at. You are completely dismissive of 99% of an entire gender's musical abilities, and you think you are capable of determining someone's musical net worth based on your 20 minute interaction at a music store.

I have been at the other end of your type of condensation when trying gear, and it sucks. Perhaps you were born with Jeff Beck's abilities, the rest of us were not. We had to struggle, and fail, and keep struggling to improve. You should recognize this, and be empathetic.

I'm sure you would also be one to lament the decline of Mom & Pop stores and music in general at the same time you sneer at those who are the very people who support those stores.

Maybe you should think more about how you see other people.

Oh, go cry yourself to sleep!

I write gear reviews, I go to NAMM shows, and between Fender putting out a new crappy guitar model every other week, and a zillion manufacturers churning out 31 flavors of fuzz, distortion and tubescreamers, it's a racket. It's a huge racket. It's over kill and it concerns me when I see people compulsively spending money on all this shit when they would be better off learning how to play their instruments better. And I KNOW they would be better off because I teach guitar.

And yes, I can hear a player's net worth because I've been playing guitar for over 30 years and I can tell where somebody comes from within 45 seconds of hearing them play. A $300 boutique overdrive pedal with fourteen knobs is not going to help them become a better guitarist.

I believe companies prey on un-enlightened consumers using rock stars and tag lines like "Transparent" and "Vintage Vibe," and they don't have your best interests at heart. Sue me for having a soft spot for people who lose control in guitar stores and buy shit they don't need. I try to help people.

If my little two day experience hit a nerve and caused anybody here to feel inadequate or that I was "dismissive" about their playing, that's something you need to work out with your guitar teacher or your therapist.

Boy, Suzy Fuckin' Sensitives in great numbers here.
 
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