The Dual Rectifier is back.

jp_nyc

jp_nyc

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Gibson has apparently decided to focus on rehashing vintage amps just like they rehash vintage guitars. The Dual Rectifier is back. $2,700 or $2,800 with a black face plate. Mesa/Boogie posted this video 12 hours ago and it’s already back ordered at Sweetwater and Guitar Center is running low.
 
why not just get an older one? Not like there's ever a shortage of them on the used market.
 
jp_nyc said:
Gibson has apparently decided to focus on rehashing vintage amps just like they rehash vintage guitars. The Dual Rectifier is back. $2,700 or $2,800 with a black face plate. Mesa/Boogie posted this video 12 hours ago and it’s already back ordered at Sweetwater and Guitar Center is running low.
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Stating the obvious, smart move on Gibson's part.
Lerxst said:
why not just get an older one? Not like there's ever a shortage of them on the used market.
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Older amps often require maintenance to sound their best or even work at all. That can end up being a hidden cost when buying an older amp.

Personally, I look for reliable and cost effective ways to get classic sounds. If I was wealthier, it would be a different story because I think old and vintage gear is cool.
 
jrockbridge said:
Stating the obvious, smart move on Gibson's part.

Older amps often require maintenance to sound their best or even work at all. That can end up being a hidden cost when buying an older amp.

Personally, I look for reliable and cost effective ways to get classic sounds. If I was wealthier, it would be a different story because I think old and vintage gear is cool.
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it's not like we're talking about old vintage amps....the modern production rectos are plenty reliable. Heck, I sold one a few years ago and it was a killer amp that I would have gladly kept if I needed that kind of wattage.
 
Lerxst said:
it's not like we're talking about old vintage amps....the modern production rectos are plenty reliable. Heck, I sold one a few years ago and it was a killer amp that I would have gladly kept if I needed that kind of wattage.
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I get that you asked a rhetorical question. I had the temerity to give you a valid counter point. It's not like I'll win a prize for changing your mind.

In general, used gear can have hidden problems. Used tube amps sometimes have hidden problems. Other times, they don't. It's a bit of a gamble. Also, some people just want a shiny new product.

A new amp comes with a factory warranty. Used gear comes with a 45 day return policy at best.

I have bought plenty of new and used gear including amps. I could get into specific stories, but I'm not going to bother.

3 things you can nearly guarantee you will NOT have to worry about with a new amp...
1) Scratchy pots.
2) Bad, noisy, or worn out, preamp tubes.
3) Needs a cap job.
 
jrockbridge said:
I get that you asked a rhetorical question. I had the temerity to give you a valid counter point. It's not like I'll win a prize for changing your mind.

In general, used gear can have hidden problems. Used tube amps sometimes have hidden problems. Other times, they don't. It's a bit of a gamble. Also, some people just want a shiny new product.

A new amp comes with a factory warranty. Used gear comes with a 45 day return policy at best.

I have bought plenty of new and used gear including amps. I could get into specific stories, but I'm not going to bother.

3 things you can nearly guarantee you will NOT have to worry about with a new amp...
1) Scratchy pots.
2) Bad, noisy, or worn out, preamp tubes.
3) Needs a cap job.
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you do you
 
Lerxst said:
you do you
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Mesa Boogie amps are notoriously expensive when it comes to repair. You got rid of yours, so you don't have to worry.

Meanwhile, I have an old Fender and an old Peavey that both have scratchy pots and need cap jobs. Cleaner helped and I replaced a bad preamp tube in one of them. I need to figure out which one has gone bad in the other. There may be other issues but these are the things I'm certain about.

You do you. Stick to new kitchens and old amps. Leave the new amps for the rest of us. :baimun:
 
Lerxst said:
why not just get an older one? Not like there's ever a shortage of them on the used market.
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Probably because the circuits in these amps are complicated. If you buy a new one and it needs work it could end up costing almost as much as a new one.
 
jrockbridge said:
Mesa Boogie amps are notoriously expensive when it comes to repair. You got rid of yours, so you don't have to worry.

Meanwhile, I have an old Fender and an old Peavey that both have scratchy pots and need cap jobs. Cleaner helped and I replaced a bad preamp tube in one of them. I need to figure out which one has gone bad in the other. There may be other issues but these are the things I'm certain about.

You do you. Stick to new kitchens and old amps. Leave the new amps for the rest of us. :baimun:
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all I can say, my experience and countless friends in bands that hauled their amps from town to town, state to state across the country don't align w/ your rhetoric but, ok....how far do you need to drag this out to be right?
 
Lerxst said:
all I can say, my experience and countless friends in bands that hauled their amps from town to town, state to state across the country don't align w/ your rhetoric but, ok....how far do you need to drag this out to be right?
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Don't you see that we're both right?
 
Lerxst said:
And yet you keep quoting me with counter points so ?
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I was simply attempting to open your mind to the possibility that, while your point of view is perfectly valid, there is an alternate point of view that is also valid. You only subscribe to one of them, which is fine. I happen to subscribe to both, depending on the details and circumstances.

It seems like you think the people buying a new/expensive Mesa/Boogie amp are foolish. I do not. Conversely, I do not think buying used is foolish, but it does come with some risks. I'll continue to do both.
 
jrockbridge said:
I was simply attempting to open your mind to the possibility that, while your point of view is perfectly valid, there is an alternate point of view that is also valid. You only subscribe to one of them, which is fine. I happen to subscribe to both, depending on the details and circumstances.

It seems like you think the people buying a new/expensive Mesa/Boogie amp are foolish. I do not. Conversely, I do not think buying used is foolish, but it does come with some risks. I'll continue to do both.
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So the quest to win the Internet continues....

Many assumptions about my thoughts
 
Lerxst said:
So the quest to win the Internet continues....

Many assumptions about my thoughts
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I slept on it. I still believe both our perspectives are valid. I think we’re both right. I just think I’m a little bit more right than you. I’d call it a 55/45 split in my favor. :bigg:
 
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