Lessons/Skills Order Expanded

Guitar1969

Little Hot Wing
Mark: Have really been enjoying your site and lessons. I am familiar with your posted order of lessons on your site, but I had a broader question. As an experienced teacher, do you have a standard general guideline of order to introduce guitar skills over the long term(From complete beginner to intermediate/advanced Now I know it can vary from student to student, and may be influenced by style of music the student is interested in, and at some point it is going to be dictated by strengths and weaknesses but I would imagine that there must be a general consensus in the guitar community on the most effective order to introduce the various aspects of guitar to produce a good all around general player. Maybe something that even goes beyond your Foundations of Guitar Order(Which is a good start). My problem is I have the basic skills, chords(open and barred), pentatonics and some major scales, hammer ons, pulloffs, bends, and been spending some time on blues and phrasing, and building speed in alternate picking, but not sure what the next logical skill I should concentrate on, along with these things.

So is there some type of general roadmap out there that is proven to be effective in the overall journey of mastering guitar.

Thanks,
Michael
 
I don't know if there is ever a consensus with guitar teachers... ;D

The problem with guitar is that it is almost never taught like any other instrument i.e. note reading, graduated studies and whatnot. Many players live without ever reading a note and they are fine with that. If you look on the more established guitar forums you will almost always see a running argument for or against note reading, whether or not to teach theory to beginners or even just if tab is the work of the devil ::)

The idea with my book was that I wanted to have a method where I could define how time and rhythm works and give the student a physical framework to play time easier with all of the other things you have to do to make music happen on the guitar. And I have always thought that students (self taught or otherwise) should be playing music right off the bat so they should be learning rhythm guitar skills such as the basic types of chords (open, and movable shapes) and how to strum them in a pocket. And that they should be able to read at least a small amount of music...even if they never read another line of music ever again having had to learn to read at least one position on the instrument means that they can play time with single notes, they know what the notes that they are playing are called and they can mentally organize music in their head WHILE they are playing it.

That's quite a bit of stuff, but the guitar can be a pretty complicated instrument if you hope to give your students a start that they can apply to any style of music.

After (or even towards the end of) my book I usually have my students work through Ross Boltons "Funk Guitar" book to get their 16th note mechanics happening (for both strumming and single note playing). Once again, even if they never want to play funk music after a month or so of working on this book they start seeing how much cleaner their playing is (you have to work on controlling the instrument with the left hand as much as strumming with the right) and how much better they play in time.

Another good "post Foundations" option is Barrett Tagliarinos "Guitar Fretboard Workbook". This really gets the student learning their basic music theory not only intellectually but as it lays out on the instrument...you'll see many of my video lessons tend to follow his techniques ;D

Beyond that, it really depends on what the student wants to do with the guitar...and much of that is just learning the music in the style that they want to play. At this point the student understands the guitar, music theory and how to play the guitar well enough that we can learn music in their chosen "style of study" and analyze it...they can even self teach, to a point...


It never hurts to study with someone who is higher up the food chain, too...I don't get much time to take lessons myself but I am always trying to learn from the guys that I gig with or that I interact with online.

Playing with other musicians is also very useful...you can practice for years and after a certain point you will start losing skills and information. If you have to use it in a performance setting chances are that you will retain it better, and the stresses of preparing for performance will also push you to grow as well!


I hope this was helpful!!!
 
Thanks for the info - maybe I'll check out - Barrett Tagliarinos "Guitar Fretboard Workbook".

I have also just started reading Guthrie Govan's "Creative Guitar 1" book to try and get some direction and new ways of thinking but I think my problem at this point is I need to build up my Guitar Licks vocabulary and start incorporating them into my own soloing. I can always make excuses that I need to learn more technique and skills(which I definitely do) but I have enough now where I should be able to develop my style along with working my skills- And I am sure its a lifelong endeavor which will change throughout my life.

Thanks,
 
Guitar1969 said:
Thanks for the info - maybe I'll check out - Barrett Tagliarinos "Guitar Fretboard Workbook".

I have also just started reading Guthrie Govan's "Creative Guitar 1" book to try and get some direction and new ways of thinking but I think my problem at this point is I need to build up my Guitar Licks vocabulary and start incorporating them into my own soloing. I can always make excuses that I need to learn more technique and skills(which I definitely do) but I have enough now where I should be able to develop my style along with working my skills- And I am sure its a lifelong endeavor which will change throughout my life.

Thanks,


Hi guitar1969 It says here you are trying to build up your guitar licks vocabulary. I ran a thread giving this website, you might want to check it out. http://www.myguitarsolo.com it has over 300 licks I believe good luck and have fun
 
Guitar1969 said:
Thanks for the info - maybe I'll check out - Barrett Tagliarinos "Guitar Fretboard Workbook".

I have also just started reading Guthrie Govan's "Creative Guitar 1" book to try and get some direction and new ways of thinking but I think my problem at this point is I need to build up my Guitar Licks vocabulary and start incorporating them into my own soloing. I can always make excuses that I need to learn more technique and skills(which I definitely do) but I have enough now where I should be able to develop my style along with working my skills- And I am sure its a lifelong endeavor which will change throughout my life.

Thanks,

I am always looking for new solos to learn...we all use the same theory but its always thought provoking to see how your favorite players utilize it....I'm going to look for that Guthrie Govan book right now... ;D
 
markwein said:
After (or even towards the end of) my book I usually have my students work through Ross Boltons "Funk Guitar" book to get their 16th note mechanics happening (for both strumming and single note playing). Once again, even if they never want to play funk music after a month or so of working on this book they start seeing how much cleaner their playing is (you have to work on controlling the instrument with the left hand as much as strumming with the right) and how much better they play in time.


Very much agreed...I'm finishing this book with Mark and it has really changed my playing dramaticly. Both in time, strumming, and just my right hand period. It also gives you some nice chords, techniques and stuff like that...Over all, do this book with your students!
 
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