Question: Intonation woes. Is there a better way to wrangle a recalcitrant G string?

BlackCat

American Greaser
Issue: G string sharp at the 12th fret and saddle travel maxed out.
I got an aftermarket bridge with a larger range of travel.
It solved the intonation problem but I wonder if there is a less drastic solution.


Looking sloppy but intonation is correct and the guitar plays in tune.
I'll tidy it up next string change.


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I had a similar issue with a cheap Gretsch I bought on EOY closeout, Dec 2024. The adjustment screws were maxed out on the OEM bridge. In my case, the low E was the worst offender, G was 2nd worst. Theoretically, longer bridge adjustment screws could have solved the issue for me. However, I opted for a replacement bridge.

Truss rod adjustments will affect intonation. So, if you can’t get the intonation correct with the OEM bridge, it could be that there is either too much or too little relief. Sorry, I forget which situation causes sharp vs flat.

String gauge directly affects relief and the truss rod. So, different string gauges will change the neck relief and change the intonation. Heavier strings cause the neck to have more relief and lighter strings cause less relief. I’ve even experienced bad quality, new strings that throw intonation off.

Action can affect intonation. So, I suppose changing the action could, theoretically, improve intonation. But, I would never use that strategy. It is a known problem that super high action will make it difficult to set proper intonation. However, I want my action set where it feels best for me period.

My guitar setups always start with my preferred (1) strings based on the guitar’s scale length. Then, I adjust the (2) truss rod. Because, I use light strings, the truss rod is often at the lowest tension, or very near it. Next, I set the (3) action which is different depending on the specific guitar. I want all the notes on the neck to ring out, so my action tends to be a bit higher than OEM specs. The more perfect the neck and frets, the lower the action can be set. Obviously, a fret dressing can improve the situation. Last, I set the (4) intonation at the bridge with a Strobe Tuner. If you don’t have a strobe tuner, there are strobe tuner apps available on smart phones.

Here is my Gretsch showing the OEM and replacement bridges…


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You need to adjust the bridge to be further away from the pickup. As it is now you have it set with the shortest amount of string. That's why the saddles are all almost maxed out towards the back.
 
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You need to adjust the bridge to be further away from the pickup. As it is now you have it set with the shortest amount of string. That's why the sales are all almost maxed out towards the back.
Unless I misunderstood his post, the intonation is good on this replacement bridge. But, yes, if the G was still flat, the adjustment screws on each end of this bridge could be screwed in farther to lengthen the scale length.

I think @BlackCat was asking if he could have possibly missed something with the OEM bridge that he replaced which could have solved the intonation rather than replacing the bridge.
 
Unless I misunderstood his post, the intonation is good on this replacement bridge. But, yes, if the G was still flat, the adjustment screws on each end of this bridge could be screwed in farther to lengthen the scale length.

I think @BlackCat was asking if he could have possibly missed something with the OEM bridge that he replaced which could have solved the intonation rather than replacing the bridge.
I have to see what the oem bridge looked like on the guitar. Now that it’s gone, regardless of written description it’s just a lot what if’s and could have been’s speculation.
 
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