Installed a Trem-Setter.....No More Floyd Rose Hate!!!!!!

Saturn

Saturn

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Ok again I dig a Floyd Rose trem system but they can be a pain. I decided to give a Trem-Setter a try.

Didn't take to long to install. Wasn't to crazy about drilling holes in my guitar but not really a big deal.

The good: The Trem-Setter works just as they claim. No amount of diving will put the guitar out of tune. I can pull up on the trem and dive with no tuning issues. The whole trem unit feels more stable. It almost feels like a blocked trem. I can palm muse with my hand resting on the bridge with no issues. Bending one string doesn't throw the rest of the strings out of tune. Over all the bridge just feels stable no matter what I'm playing.

The bad: Well only one thing really. The Trem-Setter really stiffens up the trem. It almost feels like I threw a couple extra springs in there. Not really a big deal as far as I'm concerned. It's a small trade off for the added stability.

I was going to take pics and post a how to but I used the Hipshot video as a how to. Much better instruction than I could do. The only thing that didn't work out for me was the trick with the guitar pick at the end of the vid. I tried that and my tuning was out of whack and the bridge wasn't quite floating right. I instead just floated the trem and tuned then pushed the Trem-Setter collar in place and locked it down.

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Pic of the Trem-Setter installed.

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This is one mod I would highly recommend for you floating trem guys.
 
I have one factory installed on my strat plus. I agree, the thing works as advertised. :thu:

Glad you partially cured your floyd hatred.
 
Tiltsta said:
I have one factory installed on my strat plus. I agree, the thing works as advertised. :thu:

Glad you partially cured your floyd hatred.
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The guitar is almost 25 years old so the Floyd has seen better days. I could have went the route of replacing the Floyd and probably gotten more stability but there is a certain amount of mojo with the old worn bridge. The Floyd is a Shaller and is really a pretty good unit. I cleaned it up and oiled the posts and knife edges and it was pretty stable. Could have easily left it as is with no problems.

The Trem-Setter corrects some of the issues you find with all floating trems like string flutter and bending knocking all the strings out of tune. I also like to rest my hand on the bridge for palm mutes now the bridge will not go out of tune if I rest my hand to heavy on the trem. I don't have to alter my playing style to account for the floating bridge.

I can see a player that dose a lot of dives and little Floyd tricks not being comfortable with the stiffer feel with the Trem-Setter but for my playing it feels fine. I had another Strat with a Floyd several year ago and had the trem blocked so it was dive only. I put a extra spring in and blocked it. With the Trem-Setter it feels a lot like the blocked trem on that Strat except I can still pull up on the bar.

The Trem-Setter is also supposed to increase sustain. I didn't think I would hear any real difference in sustain but I do notice more sustain now that the Trem-Setter is installed.

So far I'm lovin' the Trem-Setter. Can't find any complaints.
 
Mark Wein said:
:hmm:

Might be a thought when I do my RG550 remodel....
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I have been abusing the Strat with dives and vibratos. Doing big bends and everything that would knock a normal Floyd out of whack and it hasn't gone out of tune after 2 days of heavy playing.:thu:
 
Saturn said:
I have been abusing the Strat with dives and vibratos. Doing big bends and everything that would knock a normal Floyd out of whack and it hasn't gone out of tune after 2 days of heavy playing.:thu:
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How much are they?
 
Saturn said:
I have been abusing the Strat with dives and vibratos. Doing big bends and everything that would knock a normal Floyd out of whack and it hasn't gone out of tune after 2 days of heavy playing.:thu:
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If a normal Floyd was going out of whack there was something wrong.
I've had lots of Floyd guitars and I couldn't get them out of tune if I wanted to.
 
_pete_ said:
If a normal Floyd was going out of whack there was something wrong.
I've had lots of Floyd guitars and I couldn't get them out of tune if I wanted to.
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I had it set up and staying in tune. This guitar is about 25 years old and has been played for that entire time. The Floyd needed some tweaking but still would hold tune. The big things for me were the string flutter and stability when bending. It also will make string changes much easier to deal with. I don't do a whole lot of stuff with the trem but do like to have at least one guitar with a trem system. The Trem-Setter makes the trem equipped guitar feel and react more like a fixed bridge guitar.

And it just makes me feel better.
 
Yngtchie Blacksteen said:
Very interesting, especially considering I just bought a Floyd-equipped guitar. How does it compare to the Tremol-No?
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The Tremol-No dose two things. It locks down the trem claw so you don't get any movement there and makes it so you can block the trem by locking down thumb screws. You can lock it to dive only or completely block the trem.

The Trem-Setter stabilizes the trem and always pulls your trem back to the exact zero position every time.
 
I've never owned a Tremsetter, but I own a Tremol-No. So, all I have is a few guesses based upon reading this information as well as other info elsewhere.

Based on reading, the Tremsetter makes the Floyd pretty stiff. The Tremol-No may make the Floyd feel a little bit more stiff, but it's slight compared to the Tremsetter.

The Tremol-No can be set for dive-only or fixed bridge position within a few seconds. The Tremsetter doesn't have those options.

The Tremsetter has a middle spot (zero point) that feels like a noticeable hump. When the Tremol-No is set to free floating, there is no middle hump or zero point that can be felt...it feels smooth throughout the whole range.

One possible downside to the Tremol-No, if you have it set for dive-only or fixed, you forget and yank up on the Floyd, you can damage the Tremol-No...and possibly even damage the tremolo. I try to always leave mine unlocked when I stop playing it as well as push the the whammy bar opposite of the neck when I have it in fixed to remind myself. I've never even come close to damaging mine.

I'm wondering if anybody knows, will the Tremsetter work on a Strat style (non-Floyd) tremolo?
 
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jrockbridge said:
I'm wondering if anybody knows, will the Tremsetter work on a Strat style (non-Floyd) tremolo?
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Yes it will work on a Strat style non-Floyd. It will work on any fulcrum type trem. If your guitar has springs chances are you can put in a Trem-Setter.

I have noticed the mid-point hump you talked about. Doesn't really bother me in the least but I can see where it would bother some Floyd users.
 
Saturn said:
Yes it will work on a Strat style non-Floyd. It will work on any fulcrum type trem. If your guitar has springs chances are you can put in a Trem-Setter.

I have noticed the mid-point hump you talked about. Doesn't really bother me in the least but I can see where it would bother some Floyd users.
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I wonder, how does the mid point feel when you pull up and push down repeatedly....like flutters when playing slow rhythm?
 
jrockbridge said:
I wonder, how does the mid point feel when you pull up and push down repeatedly....like flutters when playing slow rhythm?
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That is one of the few things I do with the trem. You don't really feel that mid-point hump when doing that. When you will notice it is when you do the little slap on the bar and expect it to snap back going slightly sharp then back to the zero point. It will hit that zero point and not go any further.
 
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