"Why Americans Don’t Like Jazz"

I guess I just don't like the really avant-garde stuff. Give me jazz standards :embarrassed:
 
I don't like jazz because I don't like jazz. My nationality has fuck all to do with it.

Just sayin'
 
I guess I just don't like the really avant-garde stuff. Give me jazz standards :embarrassed:
Thats fine...you don't need to get into anything you're not going to enjoy...watching the Ken Burns documentary might be a good primer for (most) of the different eras and schools of Jazz and give you an idea of what is what. Even getting a few of these albums might not hurt to get started if you're not sure where to start with the small group style stuff:

http://www.amazon.com/Kind-Blue-Miles-Davis/dp/B000002ADT

http://www.amazon.com/Blue-Train-John-Coltrane/dp/B0000A5A0T/ref=pd_bxgy_m_img_z

http://www.amazon.com/Time-Out-Dave-Brubeck-Quartet/dp/B000002AGN/ref=pd_bxgy_m_img_z

http://www.amazon.com/Saxophone-Col..._title_0?_encoding=UTF8&sr=1-2&qid=1406849840

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...F8&child=B004V8CXSE&qid=1406849894&sr=1-1</a>

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...F8&child=B000VZIPC4&qid=1406849938&sr=1-2</a>

http://www.amazon.com/Essential-Cha...qid=1406849992&sr=1-5&keywords=charlie+parker

http://www.amazon.com/Midnight-Blue...music_a_5?ie=UTF8&refRID=11QQDE2N64CRZC7SDZKC

http://www.amazon.com/The-Genius-Of...usic_a_37?ie=UTF8&refRID=11QQDE2N64CRZC7SDZKC

http://www.amazon.com/The-Sidewinde...usic_a_40?ie=UTF8&refRID=11QQDE2N64CRZC7SDZKC

http://www.amazon.com/Song-For-Fath...usic_a_13?ie=UTF8&refRID=1EEPETTY1C9HP7ZQCG4M

I can't find any of the Wes MOntgomerey albums I like other than the complete Riverside collection which is $150 but this seems cool: http://www.amazon.com/Smokin-At-The-Half-Note/dp/B000W223FG/ref=ntt_mus_ep_dpi_12

I LOVE this one: http://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Blue-H...eywords=george+benson+beyond+the+blue+horizon

There are so many great albums out there but its hard to know what is good without some research.
 
I like to watch jazz played live, because I enjoy watching the musicians display their musicianship and creativity in a live setting. However, I rarely listen to recorded jazz. It's just not my thing. :embarrassed:
 
Jazz tends to be elitist and exclusionary. Most people can't be bothered fighting that or trying to fit into it. I found the jazz guys in college so repulsive as humans that I wanted nothing to do with it. I could've had a better appreciation for it, I think, had they all not been such douchebags.
 
I like to watch jazz played live, because I enjoy watching the musicians display their musicianship and creativity in a live setting. However, I rarely listen to recorded jazz. It's just not my thing. :embarrassed:

I rarely listen to studio jazz albums, preferring live performances and recordings for the musician's interplay and the crown jewel of jazz, improvisation.
 
I rarely listen to studio jazz albums, preferring live performances and recordings for the musician's interplay and the crown jewel of jazz, improvisation.

Whenever I watch a live jazz performance, I end up watching the drummer 80% of the time. Jazz drummers are just fun to watch :embarrassed:
 
Jazz tends to be elitist and exclusionary. Most people can't be bothered fighting that or trying to fit into it. I found the jazz guys in college so repulsive as humans that I wanted nothing to do with it. I could've had a better appreciation for it, I think, had they all not been such douchebags.

Every style of music has shitty fans.

I think that jazz is, by its nature, the most democratic musical style ever. You can't think of a style of music that jazz hasn't miscegenated with.
 
No, I don't mean fans so much as the jazz musicians themselves.
Jazz tends to be elitist and exclusionary. Most people can't be bothered fighting that or trying to fit into it. I found the jazz guys in college so repulsive as humans that I wanted nothing to do with it. I could've had a better appreciation for it, I think, had they all not been such douchebags.

That is my experience with college age music students in general. :embarrassed:
 
That is my experience with college age music students in general. :embarrassed:

Yup. I can't count the number of college students that are pursuing their masters that have tried to come teach and they fail miserably because they're ego doesn't allow them to prosper.
 
Very interesting!
And I feel the same way about Classical as most think about jazz or fusion.
No words and weak minds can't grasp... Completely agree...

And as for classical, my mind is weak.... OH I "GET IT" I just don't care :wink:
 
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