What do you think of this situation?
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mystixboi1
Kick Henry Jackassowski
For the record, I wasn't overly crazy about my Keisel purchase either and it seems like they're much quicker about labeling builds "Option 50 - Non returnable Custom Order".
What was the Option 50 on mine? A slightly thicker neck carve.
yeah... when you told me that I was shocked...
Jbird
Kick Henry Jackassowski
Really?For the record, I wasn't overly crazy about my Keisel purchase either and it seems like they're much quicker about labeling builds "Option 50 - Non returnable Custom Order".
What was the Option 50 on mine? A slightly thicker neck carve.
On some models that's a standard option. I think on the CT and DC series, you can order regular, thin or fat neck carves, the thin & fat being a slight upcharge.
thwap0
I do know on at least one model, the headless Holdsworth, a different neck carve will be an option 50. I think those come with a chunky neck, and if you want a slimmer neck it is option 50 idn_smilie
Kerouac
weird musical dildo
I hate both of the guitars in that thread.
I'm guessing there is more going on to this thread than we are seeing. The guy apparently already returned one guitar, which we never get to see, and this was the 'fix it' guitar. It is a little different than the picture he sent, but it is a blue burst guitar. I'm in agreement with the previous posts that wood is an imperfect medium and hard to match 100% to a photo. Based on the builder mentioning the buyer had contacted the shop multiple times, it seems this customer might be one of those 'never satisfied' types. Hard to say if that is the case, but it kind of feels that way.
I'm probably not in their target demographic, but this is why I never really liked the Carvin 'custom order by mail' model. I've bought tons of guitars online, but they were all from the mega vendors and readily returnable with no questions asked. I guess I might do a boutique build from someone I trusted, like some of our resident expert builders, but they are not exactly running the same big 'factory' model of Carvin. Also, a guy in my college dorm had one of their super strats in the 80's and it was terrible in sound and feel. Obviously not a valid reason to hate the brand now, as that was 1988.
I'm guessing there is more going on to this thread than we are seeing. The guy apparently already returned one guitar, which we never get to see, and this was the 'fix it' guitar. It is a little different than the picture he sent, but it is a blue burst guitar. I'm in agreement with the previous posts that wood is an imperfect medium and hard to match 100% to a photo. Based on the builder mentioning the buyer had contacted the shop multiple times, it seems this customer might be one of those 'never satisfied' types. Hard to say if that is the case, but it kind of feels that way.
I'm probably not in their target demographic, but this is why I never really liked the Carvin 'custom order by mail' model. I've bought tons of guitars online, but they were all from the mega vendors and readily returnable with no questions asked. I guess I might do a boutique build from someone I trusted, like some of our resident expert builders, but they are not exactly running the same big 'factory' model of Carvin. Also, a guy in my college dorm had one of their super strats in the 80's and it was terrible in sound and feel. Obviously not a valid reason to hate the brand now, as that was 1988.
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dougk
b00b
Agreed.
And looking at the photo in the photo Keisel posted, honestly I'd say considering one is burl and the other is flame maple they got it very close. A bit more blue tint over the center would have gotten it closer but you'd probably lose the figure in the burl.
Personally, I can see both sides having been there many many times but I bias towards the manufacturer. When we get to a "I'm out" situation, I can promise you that most of the time there's a lot of PITA behind the scenes things that get to this point.
I assume it is our genuine cluelessness about wood finishes. It sure is in my case. In only know oil finish, clear coat, aniline dye, and plain old paint. I'm sure most of that is wrong. I think the guitar world loves to provide opinions, even if they have no clue. I'm guessing it like my attempts to discuss viruses and vaccines with the public, so I'll just go ahead and apologize for my content in the thread.
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I think they stole my mother's camcorder that she used to record my first battle of the bands in 1996.
I think they stole my mother's camcorder that she used to record my first battle of the bands in 1996.
Toan is in the shoulder pain
Yeah, but I also feel like you would've handled the situation very differently and the guitar would've never made it to the completed stage without making sure the customer was fine with it. If Kiesel had communicated the issues with doing the finish they're not like "We told the guy it wasn't going to be exact, but he said OK." It's more like "We liked it, so we shipped it to him, even though it was different."