Nobody has a need for a full stack.Would, if I ever had a need for it.
120 Solid State Watts vs 120 Tube watts is the difference between a Prius and a Bugatti Veyron.120W jazz rig....lol
In the 60s. a band I was in used a non-Vox version of this:Nobody has a need for a full stack.
Desire, that's another thing!
My personal belief is every guitarist should own a full stack at some point in their life. There is nothing quite like feeling your sound pushing you forward.
In the 60s. a band I was in used a non-Vox version of this:
Fun to play through, but a real bitch to transport.
That is really cool looking. So is the other one. Neither would be appropriate for my needs. But still.In the 60s. a band I was in used a non-Vox version of this:
Fun to play through, but a real bitch to transport.
120 Solid State Watts vs 120 Tube watts is the difference between a Prius and a Bugatti Veyron.
Yes, the JC 120 is ungodly loud on its own with two twelve inch speakers, but if it were tube powered at 120 it would be unusable.
A fair analysis.I love ya, OGG, but I have to correct this little bit as it's a giant pet peeve of mine.
Watts are watts are watts.
A "120 watt" solid state amp and a "120 watt" tube amp both deliver the same exact thing -- 120 watts RMS clean amplification.
The difference is that 120 watts on, say, a JC120 is at the end of the volume knob while a tube amp can keep going past the rating but the amp will no longer deliver a clean tone.
That's why I'm kinda impressed that Bugera sells the 1960 Infinium as a 150 watt amp. It's actually pretty close. The 1960 Infinium isbased ona copy of the Marshall 1959 circuit (or, more specifically, the 1959RR Randy Rhoads) which is rated at 100 watts. Depending on the bias and the B+ voltage, though, these amps generally hit 150-170 balls-to-the-wall full tilt.
It's not that tube watts are somehow louder. It's that they're rated clean and that's nowhere near the end of the travel on the volume pot.
You don't want solid state stuff actually distorting. It's ugly. It's not the soft clipping that rounds off the waveform that tubes give you but rather just a chop off the top.A fair analysis.
The real difference is in "overdriving" the amp. A SS amp theoretically delivers the same tone regardless of volume. A tube amp only breaks up when "pushed", and an SS amp only breaks up by external or additional distortion circuitry correct?
In other words, you can play the SS amp much "quieter" by driving it artificially. A tube amp with tons of wattage and no power soak will blow your ears apart at break up volume.
Yes?
I love ya, OGG, but I have to correct this little bit as it's a giant pet peeve of mine.
Watts are watts are watts.
A "120 watt" solid state amp and a "120 watt" tube amp both deliver the same exact thing -- 120 watts RMS clean amplification.
The difference is that 120 watts on, say, a JC120 is at the end of the volume knob while a tube amp can keep going past the rating but the amp will no longer deliver a clean tone.
That's why I'm kinda impressed that Bugera sells the 1960 Infinium as a 150 watt amp. It's actually pretty close. The 1960 Infinium isbased ona copy of the Marshall 1959 circuit (or, more specifically, the 1959RR Randy Rhoads) which is rated at 100 watts. Depending on the bias and the B+ voltage, though, these amps generally hit 150-170 balls-to-the-wall full tilt.
It's not that tube watts are somehow louder. It's that they're rated clean and that's nowhere near the end of the travel on the volume pot.
Right, because the actual electrical measure of that GH's amp exceeded 7 watts.Isn't this just semantics? Watts aren't a measure of volume, they are a measure of electrical power. So like you said, the watt rating is for clean amplification but SS amps are designed to go clean all the way up where as tube amps can go far past their clean sound. Real world example, Guitar Heel used a 7 watt tube amp into a 1x12 cab and was totally fine, he was able to be heard along with a bass, 2 other guitars and drums. If he was playing a 7 watt SS amp, nobody would have heard him. Same thing when I was in my last band. I had a Fender Champion 100, 100 watts solid state, 2x12 cab. I couldn't be heard at practice with it cranked. Replaced it with a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe, 40 watt tube, 1x12 cab and I couldn't turn it up past 5 without being told to turn down.
Remind me again -- why were distortion and overdrive pedals invented?
Right, because the actual electrical measure of that GH's amp exceeded 7 watts.