how to get this kind of tone... is it in the guitar or amp?

mystixboi1

mystixboi1

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I'm totally digging this tone... is it coming from the guitar/amp or both? i think Rich Robinson was using a Fender Tele into a Marshall for the main tone. I was trying to get it with my EVH 5150 iii with the gain down and the coil tapped on my EB MM Albert Lee... it's close but doesn't nail it.

By the nature of the 5150iii, I think it's just a thicker and meatier amp.

I love how the tone in this sounds open.

 
It doesn't sound like a Tele to me. It actually sounds more like a hollowbody or semihollow with the bass rolled off a bit.

It doesn't have the twang of a Tele and there's a spongy quality to it.
 
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1. You would have to be Rich Robinson....

Aside from that. He uses a Tele most of the time with a humbucker in the neck position. He uses Marshalls, Hiwatts, and Fenders I think. My best guess is that a lot of that great tone is coming from an amp cranked in the studio.....something most of us do not have the luxury to do at home.

BTW - you might like this John....
http://www.premierguitar.com/articles/19768-rig-rundown-the-black-crowes-rich-robinson
 
Maybe part of the answer is still in here:

Here is a cool rack just done up for Rich Robinson of the Black Crowes. The rack consists of a pedal chain and 4 amp sends and 2 pedal boards as pictured. Also in the mix is 2 Fulltone TTE tape echos and a Fender rev head. All pedals are in loops of 2 RJM Effect Gizmos and controlled on the floor by a Axess Fx1. There was a custom Rack Interface made for most of the connections and all amp sends are transformer isolated. There was a additional panel done for all the other connections to the rev and echos along with a extra loop for additional units that might come along. Here you go.

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Rig Rundown: The Black Crowes' Rich Robinson
Jason Shadrick
October 02, 2013

Rich's longtime tech, Doug "Red" Redler, to go through the gear Robinson is using on the Crowes' latest tour. A large portion of the band's gear was damaged during Hurricane Sandy and Redler had to replace nearly everything in Robinson's touring rig. On this leg, Robinson was hauling everything from relic'd out Gibsons to Japanese Zemaitis models, and even a few Gretschs and Teles.

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This Japanese-made Gretsch Black Falcon was relic'd by Cobra Guitars out of New York City and fortunately wasn't damaged during Hurricane Sandy. Robinson tunes this guitar to C–C–E–C–E–G for "Shine Along" and reaches for it anytime he wants to wrestle with feedback.

This Teye La Mora model is tuned to open-G and capoed at the third fret for "Remedy." Built in Austin, Texas, these guitars feature very intricate engraving work and a somewhat mysterious Mood knob. Robinson plays almost exclusively on the bridge pickup—no matter what guitar he plays—with all the knobs full on.

Most of the models made by luthier James Trussart are crafted out of metal, but this Steelmaster model has a beachwood body and is tuned to open-G (D–G–D–G–B–D) and capoed up for "Thorn in My Pride." All of Robinson's electric guitars are strung up with .010–.046 sets of GHS Boomers.

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Two EL34 output tubes and five 12AX7 preamp tubes power the 50-watt Rich Robinson Signature Reason amp. It also contains a GZ34 rectifier and a tube tremolo that Robinson controls via an expression pedal. The 2x12 cabinets are made of Baltic birch and are stocked with 50-watt Eminence Private Jack speakers.

In order to keep stage volume at a manageable level, both of Robinson's amps (on the left is a 50th Anniversary Vox AC30HH with matching cab) use Stage Craft baffles. On top of the effects rack is a pair of Fulltone Tube Tape Echoes (one for a short echo and the other for a long echo) and a Fender Vintage Reissue '63 Reverb tank.

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All of Robinson's effects are housed in a rack that sits between his amps onstage. The drive section of his rig consists of an Electro-Harmonix Big Muff and four reissue Way Huge pedals (Angry Troll, Red Llama, Swollen Pickle, and Pork Loin). The next drawer houses his modulation effects which includes a Strymon El Capistan, Way Huge Supa-Puss, Uni-Vibe Stereo Chorus, Flip Vintage Tremolo, and a Demeter Tremulator. He splits his signal with a Framptone 3-Banger out to his Vox and Reason amps (which are both always on) and uses a Strymon Lex for his rotary tones.
 
Doesn't he use an open tuning, too?

I thought I read an article once where when he started playing guitar, he tuned it to some open tuning and that's how he learned how to play it.

Or am I thinking of someone else? idn_smilie
 
Just saw him a couple of weeks ago. Great, great sound live. Saw the Zemaitis, Trussart, couple of Les Pauls, couple of ES and Tele's too. He had 2 VOX on stage but I think I read, years ago that he used Matchless for recording. I don't remember if that was on Shake Your Money Maker or Southern Harmony tho.
 
Jbird said:
Doesn't he use an open tuning, too?

I thought I read an article once where when he started playing guitar, he tuned it to some open tuning and that's how he learned how to play it.

Or am I thinking of someone else? idn_smilie
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Yeah, that song is played with an open G tuning.
 
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