Jbird
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503 HP, looks like a BMW-slayer.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...rst-look-2017-alfa-romeo-guilia-quadrifoglio/
So, no Miata in the immediate future?When I was a teenager, I lusted after Benjamin Braddock's (Dustin Hoffman's character) AR red Spider convertible in The Graduate.
But I'm not longer a teenager, so I grew out of it.
Yeah, even the Cadillac ATS-V weighs in at 3,700 blah blah blah....
Yeah, but right now that GM shit is blowing the doors off of your BMW's comparable cars, at a cheaper priceDAMMIT JAY!!!!!
If you keep bringing up gawddamned GM shit in the middle of a discussion of proper sports cars, I'm going to ask for a temp ban until you get your mind right!!!
If an automatic is not offered in the U.S., though, consider that a self-inflicted wound on Alfa's part.
Everything you wrote is true. It is also not likely to be a key consideration from the FIAT group when it comes to offering the car in the US. Alfas have always been a niche, enthusiasts brand here. That will never change. I'm sure the US version production numbers will be ultimately below the demand for the car. It's really no different than the other Alfa models currently available here. Their supply is very limited and there is no issue of there being unsold bunches of them waiting around for a buyer collecting cobwebs.It sure looks nice, and has some insane specs, but that market segment is pretty scary with competition. M3, C63 AMG, Audi S4, and so on are going to prove stiff competition for the new Alfa.
Looking at the specs, the thing they seemed to have managed best is keeping the weight down. 3,330 pounds is pretty light for a modern rocket sedan, which puts it 250 under the M3 and 500 under the AMG. Weight really matters.
Yeah, but right now that GM shit is blowing goats off and trying to copy BMW's cars, at a cheaper price
It's a sports car America...it's supposed to have a Manual
DAMMIT JAY!!!!!If you keep bringing up gawddamned GM shit in the middle of a discussion of proper sports cars, I'm going to ask for a temp ban until you get your mind right!!!
Neat...but, I really wonder how Alfa is going to fare in the states until they can up their presence beyond the hardcore faithful. I'm not entirely convinced they are going to pull in cross-shoppers from Merc & BMW until they have a legit dealer network in place.
Uptake on manuals, even in sports cars, is abysmal....in this sport/neo-muscle car sedan class, it would knock out a majority of the prospective customer base.
I drive a manual and have spent the majority of my driving on manual trans cars but when you're banging out sub 4 second 0-60, I'm not really all that convinced that a manual is the best choice over today's lightning fast double clutch manual-matics.
I vote a permanent name change from jaybird to onetrack
Neat...but, I really wonder how Alfa is going to fare in the states until they can up their presence beyond the hardcore faithful. I'm not entirely convinced they are going to pull in cross-shoppers from Merc & BMW until they have a legit dealer network in place.
Uptake on manuals, even in sports cars, is abysmal....in this sport/neo-muscle car sedan class, it would knock out a majority of the prospective customer base.
I drive a manual and have spent the majority of my driving on manual trans cars but when you're banging out sub 4 second 0-60, I'm not really all that convinced that a manual is the best choice over today's lightning fast double clutch manual-matics.
I vote a permanent name change from jaybird to onetrack
Plus, this time they will have a better dealer and service network. I think that hurt them in the past.Everything you wrote is true. It is also not likely to be a key consideration from the FIAT group when it comes to offering the car in the US. Alfas have always been a niche, enthusiasts brand here. That will never change. I'm sure the US version production numbers will be ultimately below the demand for the car. It's really no different than the other Alfa models currently available here. Their supply is very limited and there is no issue of there being unsold bunches of them waiting around for a buyer collecting cobwebs.
By using the pre-existing FIAT dealership network, there is virtually no added overhead beyond adding the proper signage and other point of sale minutia at the few FIAT dealers that will carry them.
Guys like Sun Valley who are lifelong enthusiasts in their middle years with a good career aren't likely to give a shit about any of the competition or their superiority in performance, build quality... whatever. None of that crap matters to an enthusiast.
This car is the Italian made, 4 wheel equivalent of the Field of Dreams. If you build it, they will come.