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    confused The huge rim phenomenon: Can someone explain it to me?

    I just passed one to these guys this morning.




    Looks like the car is on stilts. I just don't understand it.

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    why do companies put gold hardware on $100 guitars?
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    I don't get it either.

    Now, I do like the look of a 4x4 pickup truck with a few inches of lift (not more than a few inches) but a sedan jacked up sitting on 24" rims just looks silly to me.

    As examples of lifted 4x4s:

    Something like this I'm fine with:



    Something like this I'm not:




    I'm not a fan of vehicles that have been lowered either.

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    Um....I got nothing.

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    Look, there is no figuring out "why" some little shithead has to keep his pants down to his knees, embed metal in his teeth, and drive around in a car with giant bling bling rims with tires that go flat if you run over a crack pipe, while they drive around looking for a "ho" to bang, and do their part to spread the new strain of gonorrhea, which is known to cause women to be infertile, thus indirectly helping to reduce the over population of these shitheads... God apparently works in mysterious ways...
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    I see those all the time around here - especially in Denver proper. I have no clue. Car bling....
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    There's one that drives past my little middle of nowhere place almost every day. I don't get it either. I dig lifted trucks, but it looks dumb as hell on cars. I do like cars/trucks that have been lowered for an actual sport suspension, though. The ground scraping lowrider bullshit is not for me.

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    These are just modern clown cars.

    Extra clown points for cruising around with headrest screens glowing when there is no one in the back seat to watch them.

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    My car used to have 19" rims, but that's because they were there when I bought them. When I replace my tires I went with smaller ones that would accept traditional tires instead of low profile.
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    People are idoits. My Ram service truck has 20" wheels but it came from the factory that way. I don't believe in modifying a car in any way. I will not buy a car that has any aftermarket equipment of any kind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reverend1 View Post
    People are idoits. My Ram service truck has 20" wheels but it came from the factory that way. I don't believe in modifying a car in any way. I will not buy a car that has any aftermarket equipment of any kind.
    I agree, people are idiots, for real, and getting worse every year... Still, why don't you believe in modding a car in any way? If I don't like the paint job, what's wrong with changing it? If the factory stereo sucks, what's wrong with changing it? Also, what kind of Ram "service truck" do you have, for what purpose, and does it have low profile tires?
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    Quote Originally Posted by reverend1 View Post
    People are idoits. My Ram service truck has 20" wheels but it came from the factory that way. I don't believe in modifying a car in any way. I will not buy a car that has any aftermarket equipment of any kind.
    you'll change guitar pickups and hardware, why not car parts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulskirocks View Post
    I agree, people are idiots, for real, and getting worse every year... Still, why don't you believe in modding a car in any way? If I don't like the paint job, what's wrong with changing it? If the factory stereo sucks, what's wrong with changing it? Also, what kind of Ram "service truck" do you have, for what purpose, and does it have low profile tires?
    It's a Dodge Ram 1500 quad cab with a Hemi. It doesn't have low profile tires. I would absolutely never change the paint on a car. Huge red flag. Part of the reason I feel this way is, who did the work, what was wrong that they needed to do the work? If you wanted something else on the car why didn't they get a car that had it to begin with. Contrary to popular belief aftermarket modifications great reduce the value of a car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reverend1 View Post
    It's a Dodge Ram 1500 quad cab with a Hemi. It doesn't have low profile tires. I would absolutely never change the paint on a car. Huge red flag. Part of the reason I feel this way is, who did the work, what was wrong that they needed to do the work? If you wanted something else on the car why didn't they get a car that had it to begin with. Contrary to popular belief aftermarket modifications great reduce the value of a car.
    Oh, so that's your reason... Sure, based on that particular line of thinking, that makes sense for you... By the way, one could argue that only an idiot would buy a Chrysler product... Anyways, for each their own, and if depreciating the value doesn't matter to me, then cool! I would never run huge rims with low profile tires for two reasons... One, because I think it looks goofy, but that is just an aesthetic judgment... Second, because the kind of places I drive would destroy a low profile tire, so I would be an idiot to do that... Oh, my Chevy truck is totally stock, except for the stereo... However, I plan on keeping it until it is worthless, so trade in or resale value is completely irrelevant... *Waits for Chevy jab*
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCat View Post
    I just passed one to these guys this morning.




    Looks like the car is on stilts. I just don't understand it.
    In all fairness to the current trendy crowd, I imagine there are a lot of people who wouldn't understand why you dress the way you do, play the music you do, and wear the boots you do...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Help!I'maRock! View Post
    you'll change guitar pickups and hardware, why not car parts?
    Cars are different than guitars. I have been involved with racing and selling high end cars for a long time and what seems like an inconsequential modification will destroy the value of the car. If we're talking about some old beater then it's a mute point because it's not worth anything anyway. When I buy a car I check every panel gap the paint on every panel. I get underneath it to inspect it. I check the service book to make sure it has been stamped by an certified service center for that make, and all scheduled service has been performed. I pull the carpet back in the trunk to check for rust or evidence of body damage. I check everything and if one thing doesn't pass muster I walk. No if ands or buts. I may be over doing it but I've never had an issues with any car I've ever owned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulskirocks View Post
    In all fairness to the current trendy crowd, I imagine there are a lot of people who wouldn't understand why you dress the way you do, play the music you do, and wear the boots you do...
    That's valid. I suppose I'm not one to poke fun at any trend. Regarding the boots. If I ever need to make a BDSM video I'll at least have the footwear for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reverend1 View Post
    Cars are different than guitars. I have been involved with racing and selling high end cars for a long time and what seems like an inconsequential modification will destroy the value of the car. If we're talking about some old beater then it's a mute point because it's not worth anything anyway. When I buy a car I check every panel gap the paint on every panel. I get underneath it to inspect it. I check the service book to make sure it has been stamped by an certified service center for that make, and all scheduled service has been performed. I pull the car back in the trunk to check for rust or evidence of body damage. I check everything and if one thing doesn't pass muster I walk. No if ands or buts. I may be over doing it but I've never had an issues with any car I've ever owned.
    yeah, but we're generally not talking about racing. we're talking about idiots modifying their Hondas to go pimpin' with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulskirocks View Post
    Oh, so that's your reason... Sure, based on that particular line of thinking, that makes sense for you... By the way, one could argue that only an idiot would buy a Chrysler product... Anyways, for each their own, and if depreciating the value doesn't matter to me, then cool! I would never run huge rims with low profile tires for two reasons... One, because I think it looks goofy, but that is just an aesthetic judgment... Second, because the kind of places I drive would destroy a low profile tire, so I would be an idiot to do that... Oh, my Chevy truck is totally stock, except for the stereo... However, I plan on keeping it until it is worthless, so trade in or resale value is completely irrelevant... *Waits for Chevy jab*
    I wish I could argue with you on the Chrysler point but I can't. My Grandfather was a Dodge, Plymouth, Desoto dealer so if I buy an American car it's a Chrysler. I worked for Ford for a time so I buy Fords as well, but I would never buy a Chevy. Not because there's anything wrong with them but their styling doesn't appeal to me and their interiors are the worse on any car anywhere. BTW my last two Dodge went 250,000 miles when I sold them and I did nothing but scheduled maintenance to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCat View Post
    That's valid. I suppose I'm not one to poke fun at any trend. Regarding the boots. If I ever need to make a BDSM video I'll at least have the footwear for it.
    Bullshit, poke away! Just take your own opinion with a grain of salt... Anyways, I'm about to turn 47, so I'm so far behind the trends, everything seem goofy to me, which means I'm just some goofy middle aged guy to the young trendy folks... Hell, I'm even goofy to myself...
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulskirocks View Post
    goofy to myself...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Help!I'maRock! View Post
    yeah, but we're generally not talking about racing. we're talking about idiots modifying their Hondas to go pimpin' with.
    True, but I'm not interested in any thing like that. I'm kind of like the Service Nazi from Seinfeld. "You don't try, you do it Jerry!" I have seen my mechanic tell a customer "if you can't afford to service it, you shouldn't own a BMW." when a gal said "that part seems expensive can I replace it next time?" I know I'm weird, but I take cars very seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Help!I'maRock! View Post
    OK, that made me LOL out loud!
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    Quote Originally Posted by reverend1 View Post
    True, but I'm not interested in any thing like that. I'm kind of like the Service Nazi from Seinfeld. "You don't try, you do it Jerry!" I have seen my mechanic tell a customer "if you can't afford to service it, you shouldn't own a BMW." when a gal said "that part seems expensive can I replace it next time?" I know I'm weird, but I take cars very seriously.
    i understand that, but that's not the nature of the thread. that's a different thread. this thread is about stupid rims.
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    Those rims are definitely fucking stupid! Hows that?

    Reverend1, you would be appalled at how I treat my truck! I bought it new in 2004, and have never washed it... Well, I use the gas station squeegee to wipe off road grime in the winter, and hose it off once in a blue moon... I scratched it on the very first day I got it... The bed looks like it survived a war... On the other hand, I'm really good about mechanical maintenance... Oh, and you would have shit when i was drilling holes for my lumber rack...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prages View Post
    Something like this I'm not:




    I'm not a fan of vehicles that have been lowered either.
    What's really cool about that beast is when it rolls from being too top heavy, it will nicely crush the exhaust! I guess jacking up a truck like that costs so much, there is nothing left for a roll bar...
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulskirocks View Post
    Those rims are definitely fucking stupid! Hows that?

    Reverend1, you would be appalled at how I treat my truck! I bought it new in 2007, and have never washed it... Well, I use the gas station squeegee to wipe off road grime in the winter, and hose it off once in a blue moon... I scratched it on the very first day I got it... The bed looks like it survived a war... On the other hand, I'm really good about mechanical maintenance... Oh, and you would have shit when i was drilling holes for my lumber rack...
    Lol, you are correct. When my wife is pissed at me and we are in the car. She puts finger smudges on the windows because she knows it drives me insane. My last girlfriend before my wife told me "sometimes I think you love your cars more than me". I said "you're right".

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    If the peep's that are so consumed with their cars knew that most of the world doesn't really look, acknowledge, or give a shit about them or their rides, they might spontaneously implode.

    Seriously, most people don't care what you did to your hair, the new ink you have, what kind of car or cell phone you got, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tig View Post
    If the peep's that are so consumed with their cars knew that most of the world doesn't really look, acknowledge, or give a shit about them or their rides, they might spontaneously implode.

    Seriously, most people don't care what you did to your hair, the new ink you have, what kind of car or cell phone you got, etc.
    Very true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tig View Post
    If the peep's that are so consumed with their cars knew that most of the world doesn't really look, acknowledge, or give a shit about them or their rides, they might spontaneously implode.

    Seriously, most people don't care what you did to your hair, the new ink you have, what kind of car or cell phone you got, etc.
    they don't care what you do to your guitar, but it's a huge deal around here. "most people" like American Idol and McDonalds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reverend1 View Post
    My last girlfriend before my wife told me "sometimes I think you love your cars more than me". I said "you're right".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tig View Post
    If the peep's that are so consumed with their cars knew that most of the world doesn't really look, acknowledge, or give a shit about them or their rides, they might spontaneously implode.

    Seriously, most people don't care what you did to your hair, the new ink you have, what kind of car or cell phone you got, etc.
    Therein lies the problem with doing anything at all to impress or otherwise affect anyone other than yourself. I've modified a handful of cars over the last several years, including an FC3S RX-7 and a 2nd gen Mitsu 3000GT, but I did it because I wanted to. It was a pursuit that I enjoyed in all regards and I still couldn't possibly care less what anyone else thinks of my having done so.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
    Therein lies the problem with doing anything at all to impress or otherwise affect anyone other than yourself. I've modified a handful of cars over the last several years, including an FC3S RX-7 and a 2nd gen Mitsu 3000GT, but I did it because I wanted to. It was a pursuit that I enjoyed in all regards and I still couldn't possibly care less what anyone else thinks of my having done so.

    Exactly! Do it for yourself... For the love of modding, going faster, better handling for SCCA races, restoring a classic to the level it deserves, etc.
    Trying to impress others is about as fruitful as a monkey fucking a football.

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    Yep... My 2007 KTM 450EXC street legal dirt bike was purchased new, and was virtually useless without modding, although much of this has to do with what they did to meet the EPA requirements... Of course, it's not very street "legal" anymore...

    Point is, Reverend! is SCCA racer, and has had dedicated race cars, so he has no need to mod his daily ride... I only have one motorcycle, so it had to be modded to be what I really want it for... So, a lot of my friends have modded their brand new cars so that they could take them to the track for track day... They have only one car, so they had to mod it... Which reminds me, I have Subaru WRX GAS in a bad way...
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulskirocks View Post
    Yep... My 2007 KTM 450EXC street legal dirt bike was purchased new, and was virtually useless without modding, although much of this has to do with what they did to meet the EPA requirements... Of course, it's not very street "legal" anymore...

    Point is, Reverend! is SCCA racer, and has had dedicated race cars, so he has no need to mod his daily ride... I only have one motorcycle, so it had to be modded to be what I really want it for... So, a lot of my friends have modded their brand new cars so that they could take them to the track for track day... They have only one car, so they had to mod it... Which reminds me, I have Subaru WRX GAS in a bad way...
    I see if I can find some pic of my racing partners WRX TE. Its a wicked race car. He consistantly beats me and thinks it's very funny. I also told him if he keeps it up I will make him remove my Bavarian Autosport banners from his Japanese cars. It is a really, really fast car, and I hate him for it.

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    also, why has nobody parodied this thread?
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    The only real mods I've done to any of my cars has been back in the 90s when I had cars that had a cassette deck, I usually swapped them out for a CD deck.

    Other than that, I just do routine maintenance and/or try to fix whatever is broken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Help!I'maRock! View Post
    also, why has nobody parodied this thread?
    Well, huge rim job threads might just be pushing the envelope a bit...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prages View Post
    The only real mods I've done to any of my cars has been back in the 90s when I had cars that had a cassette deck, I usually swapped them out for a CD deck.

    Other than that, I just do routine maintenance and/or try to fix whatever is broken.
    You mean you didn't have the discman with the cassette thingy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reverend1 View Post
    You mean you didn't have the discman with the cassette thingy.
    Aaahh yes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by reverend1 View Post
    You mean you didn't have the discman with the cassette thingy.
    Yeah, I did. For several years. You know, until I was pretty sure the CD was going to catch on. I also held out on getting a CD deck until I had the capability to burn my own recordings to CD.

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    In fact, I was just cleaning out the van and found one of those adapters. The van does have both a cassette deck and CD player, but we got another of those adapters so we could plug an mp3 player into the cassette deck.

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    I just bought a few of those adapters. I'm going to try and transplant the guts to an 8-track so I can run my iPod in my NewYorker. :P

    The car in the original post is referred to as a donk.

    It's stupid.

    What's worse is people will do this to 1000 dollar cars. Yes, two or three grand ( more?) of rims and tires on a car that is just about ready for the crusher.

    Stupid money spent on stupid stupidity.

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    The rims on that thing make it look like a Hot Wheel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Help!I'maRock! View Post
    you'll change guitar pickups and hardware, why not car parts?
    Because a car is not a guitar.

    When you change pickups or hardware on a guitar, you can easily reinstall the original parts, right on you dining room table in 30 minutes with a soldering iron and a Phillips screwdriver. When you change rims/wheels on a car, not only does it cost a lot of money, it takes special equipment and you can't do this at home. When you bolt a set of 22s on your car, you're altering and most certainly damaging the vehicle's suspension, steering and gearing, resulting in more money and repairs, not to mention dramatically lowering the vehicle's value. Changing out guitar hardware does none of this.

    Glad I could clear that up for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steverino View Post
    Because a car is not a guitar.

    When you change pickups or hardware on a guitar, you can easily reinstall the original parts, right on you dining room table in 30 minutes with a soldering iron and a Phillips screwdriver. When you change rims/wheels on a car, not only does it cost a lot of money, it takes special equipment and you can't do this at home. When you bolt a set of 22s on your car, you're altering and most certainly damaging the vehicle's suspension, steering and gearing, resulting in more money and repairs, not to mention dramatically lowering the vehicle's value. Changing out guitar hardware does none of this.

    Glad I could clear that up for you.
    like i said, we're talking about two completely different things. changing pickups and hardware is akin to changing your mirrors, putting new rims on (at least ones that are supposed to be the same size), and new windshield wipers. the types of modifications the "car guys" are talking about here are akin to installing a floyd, scallop a fretboard, install stainless steel frets, and route for humbuckers. of course you can't do those things on your dining room table in 30 minutes with a soldering iron and a screwdriver. but none of these things are what the thread was actually about to begin with.
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    I have no idea where the trend got started, but I see a ton of these things in south Florida. The local kids call them "donks" as the best car to do this to is an Impala, and the impala logo looks like a donkey. I understand it has something to do with the looking cool/looking like a player aspect of the southern hip hop music scene. I suppose it is no different than the SoCal trend for crazy hydraulic systems, rat rods, or the classic pro street type custom car. I imagine Mr. Darwin had it correct in that the male of the species will often adopt brightly colored plumage, elaborate vocalizations, or other dramatic displays to be noticed by breeding females....or....guys want cool cars to look cool for the chicks.

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