HNGNBD for Home Built Saint Tele

[Modern Saint]

Hot New Guitar Neck Buy Day

After years of not playing this guitar very much, I finally broke down and purchased a new neck for my Home Assembled Tele. Discussion over the past months with Mark and Prages and the rest of Weinerdom convinced me to buy a Warmoth neck. My delay was just in understanding the charactoristics that I was looking for. The added bonus was that I got to play Mark's strat which has a Warmoth neck on it - very smooth

Here is the Tele in its present state. The body is a WD Tele I bought in the mid 90's with an Allparts Strat neck. Pickups are SD lil '59 bridge and a Danelectro Lipstick. Originally I was going to put an SD Jazz in there which I still am going to do when I start to change the neck out.



Here is the neck that I just ordered from Warmoth from their showcase of necks available. I just dig the flame design of the wood.





Neck specs

Headstock Telecaster®
Construction Vintage Modern
Orientation Right Handed
Shaft Wood Maple
Fingerboard Wood Indian Rosewood
Nut Width 1 11/16"
Back Contour Standard thin
Fretwire 6150
Tuner ream Gotoh/Grover (13/32", 11/32")
Fret Number 22
Radius 10-16" Compound
Inlays Cream Face Dots
Nut Install GraphTech White TUSQ
Neck Finish Vintage Tint Gloss
Scale 25-1/2 in.

[Dexter Inferno]

[gibby mcfender]

GORGEOUS flame and finish!!! That's about exactly the specs for the neck for the necks on my Mason Teles. You got a looker there, Saint

[Denverdave]

Nice looking neck!

[Mark Wein]

Sweet!

[Prages]

Sweet. I love the Wolfgang contour and 1 11/16" nut widths on both of my Warmoths. They are the only ones I've ever played to my knowledge though.

[Help!I'maRock!]

nice. it should be really sweet by the time you finish with all of your modifications.

[Modern Saint]

Thanks guys! I also ordered the tuners for the new neck and a new pickguard as well. Tomorrow I will be ordering a few things from Stewmac to rout the body for the SD Jazz Humbucker. Dang so many projects - Oy Veh.....

[telecaster911]

Nice. I like the darker tint

[Chad]

nice neck. I have 2 warmoths and love them both.

[Help!I'maRock!]

Thanks guys! I also ordered the tuners for the new neck and a new pickguard as well. Tomorrow I will be ordering a few things from Stewmac to rout the body for the SD Jazz Humbucker. Dang so many projects - Oy Veh.....

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

forget the humbucker. 4 way switch. seriously. it's so much better than a neck humbucker.

[Dexter Inferno]

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

forget the humbucker. 4 way switch. seriously. it's so much better than a neck humbucker.

I couldn't possibly agree more.
Howie's right

[Help!I'maRock!]

I couldn't possibly agree more.
Howie's right

the problem is the pot values. the bridge pup will get ice picky with 500k pots, and the neck humbucker will sound like mud with 250k pots. i've already been through this. the 4 way switch adds an "in-series" option that combines the pickups to produce a virtual humbucker. it rips, and you still get all 3 traditional tele tones.

[Peeker]

nice flame!

[Tiltsta]

Excellent. Looks like a quality hunk of wood. I've always been really impressed with the warmoth necks I have bought.

[FenderPusher]

Can't go wrong with Warmoth. My Warmoth Tele has the 4-way switch and I dig it.

[paulskirocks]

Yep, single coils and a 4-way switch for sure... What don't you like about the Allparts neck, by the way?

[paulskirocks]

nice flame!

Thanks, fella...

[Modern Saint]

the problem is the pot values. the bridge pup will get ice picky with 500k pots, and the neck humbucker will sound like mud with 250k pots. i've already been through this. the 4 way switch adds an "in-series" option that combines the pickups to produce a virtual humbucker. it rips, and you still get all 3 traditional tele tones.

Actually this guitar will have both humbuckers. An SD Jazz in the Neck and a lil '59 in the bridge. If you look at the picture of the original guitar, you will see the lil '59 already there. I also have a coil splitter in between the volume and tone controls already.

As for single coils, my G&L ASAT Classic has single coils and I am planning a future tele build to have a bigsby and with either single coils or P-90's.

[Modern Saint]

Yep, single coils and a 4-way switch for sure... What don't you like about the Allparts neck, by the way?

The neck is too chunky for me.

[Dexter Inferno]

the problem is the pot values. the bridge pup will get ice picky with 500k pots, and the neck humbucker will sound like mud with 250k pots. i've already been through this. the 4 way switch adds an "in-series" option that combines the pickups to produce a virtual humbucker. it rips, and you still get all 3 traditional tele tones.

Not to mention a single coil will ALWAYS sound better in the neck position.

[Help!I'maRock!]

Not to mention a single coil will ALWAYS sound better in the neck position.

a falser statement has never been made on this forum.

Saint - proceed as planned. didn't see the '59 in the bridge. it'll sound killer.

[John Watt]

In the sixties, Strat, Tele, Jazzmaster and Jaguar necks were interchangable.
You're saying you built a guitar with a neck from one after-market company, and are changing it with another.
Are the mounting holes going to line up? That could get tricky, and that's the heart of your guitar.
I'd use four more screws under the back neck plate, to get it good and tight,
and with this duality of tensions, possibly allow a new harmonic resonance.

[Help!I'maRock!]

In the sixties, Strat, Tele, Jazzmaster and Jaguar necks were interchangable.

no, they weren't. not without a shim, or re-routing of the neck pocket. you spout this all the time and it's simply untrue.

[John Watt]

For a while, everyone thought I was Bill Nitranskys' son, I almost lived in Central Music after I dropped out of high school.
Business cards and cigarette packs were the shim materials of choice, Fenders being so assembly lined up.
That's starting from 1970, and I changed necks between guitars.
A lot of guys kept Teles and Strats going by changing necks from parts guitars, Jazzmasters and Jaguars.
It might be hard for you to imagine Leo Fender and his quality control, and how you can finish one of those guitars.

[Help!I'maRock!]

For a while, everyone thought I was Bill Nitranskys' son, I almost lived in Central Music after I dropped out of high school.
Business cards and cigarette packs were the shim materials of choice, Fenders being so assembly lined up.
That's starting from 1970, and I changed necks between guitars.
A lot of guys kept Teles and Strats going by changing necks from parts guitars, Jazzmasters and Jaguars.
It might be hard for you to imagine Leo Fender and his quality control, and how you can finish one of those guitars.

Leo Fender sold the company to CBS in 1965.

[Modern Saint]

Leo Fender sold the company to CBS in 1965.

Nice!

[Modern Saint]

Woooo hoooooooooooooo.............

Well the UPS truck pulled up not to long ago and I just got my new neck, pickguard and tuners for the Tele rebuild. Sorry for the pic quality as I took these with my iPhone.

The Fretboard for the new Tele neck



The back of the neck



The new pickguard

[Denverdave]

[paulskirocks]

Right on, Randy!

[Phil513]

Leo Fender sold the company to CBS in 1965.

You are like Snopes for Watt.

[Help!I'maRock!]

You are like Snopes for Watt.

I'm just tired of the misinformation.

[Phil513]

I'm just tired of the misinformation.

You mean you actually read his posts?

[Tiltsta]

I remember reading about several wiring schemes for humbucker/single coil combos where a resistor is added to change the value of a pot from 500K in humbucker mode, to 250k (or there about) in single coil mode. I think some suhrs are wired this way, but if you google search for lowering pot values with resistors, you probably can find some homebrew circuits that do it. The idea is to provide the best possible pot values for each pickup combo. I've never done it, but I ordered some resistors to try it out on my next project. Resistors are like pennies per unit, so it is kind of surprising that more companies don't use this idea. Maybe it is crapola, but I'm keen to give it a try.