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    I just got a call from crazy dude saying he just bought a 32 channel Mackie board for $850.

    "I CAN'T WAIT TO SET THIS UP ON SATURDAY!!"

    What...the...hell

    "WE CAN NO HAVE 6 SEPARATE MONITOR SENDS!!!"



    I have no idea where something like that is going to fit in the place we are playing

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    You need to start writing everything down. Give it a year or so, and you should have a novel's worth of lulz.
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    Six monitor sends if you want to have three dedicated amps just for the monitors or six powered monitors....
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    ...i'd love to have this guy and John Watt set a festival up...the results would probably be so epic, they would break the interwebz...

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    Oh, so you're playing with my old bandmate, then.






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    We need stories like these, since even fanuvbrak seems to have found himself a fairly functioning band.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prages View Post
    Oh, so you're playing with my old bandmate, then.






    I'd have to agree....it's good he can't afford a Marshall stack because he'd have one if he could. This guy is a piece of work. He told us on Sunday that he's been through so many bands he can't even count anymore. Really?? I wouldn't have guessed! His statement was that he quit all those bands because he was the only one serious and dedicated enough to carry the "torch". I'm not sure what torch he's carrying but I almost snorted rootbeer at that comment. Anyway, before we had our little pow wow to ease the tensions, he started the discussion on how we needed to coordinate our outfits for Saturday's show. He said he knew a designer (found out it was his neice who is in some sort of art school) who could help us with outfits. It was at that point when I lost it and stated that a discussion was necessary.

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    I'd have to agree....it's good he can't afford a Marshall stack because he'd have one if he could. This guy is a piece of work. He told us on Sunday that he's been through so many bands he can't even count anymore. Really?? I wouldn't have guessed! His statement was that he quit all those bands because he was the only one serious and dedicated enough to carry the "torch". I'm not sure what torch he's carrying but I almost snorted rootbeer at that comment. Anyway, before we had our little pow wow to ease the tensions, he started the discussion on how we needed to coordinate our outfits for Saturday's show. He said he knew a designer (found out it was his neice who is in some sort of art school) who could help us with outfits. It was at that point when I lost it and stated that a discussion was necessary.
    FWIW, I quit the band in the pics because it took us 3 days to setup for a gig in a shithole bar where we made $50 each.

    I actually liked playing with them other than that.

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    he started the discussion on how we needed to coordinate our outfits for Saturday's show. He said he knew a designer (found out it was his neice who is in some sort of art school) who could help us with outfits. It was at that point when I lost it and stated that a discussion was necessary.
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    FWIW, I quit the band in the pics because it took us 3 days to setup for a gig in a shithole bar where we made $50 each.

    I actually liked playing with them other than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prages View Post
    FWIW, I quit the band in the pics because it took us 3 days to setup for a gig in a shithole bar where we made $50 each.

    I actually liked playing with them other than that.
    I'm in the same boat I think....I enjoy playing with them but the extra work he tacks on is what's killer. I'll admit that I'm lazy when it comes to doing manual labor at 1 or 2 AM.

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    I really need a "spit take" smiley for times like this
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    Quote Originally Posted by GergS View Post
    I'm in the same boat I think....I enjoy playing with them but the extra work he tacks on is what's killer. I'll admit that I'm lazy when it comes to doing manual labor at 1 or 2 AM.
    Amen.

    That's what I really love about Mixed Nuts (the band I've been in for the last 12 years or so). We take what we need. We show up late, we set up quick, we play, we get paid, we tear down, we go home.

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    If you cant set up in an hour, it's too much.
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    When I see a band wheeling 100w Marshall heads into a small bar, I take that as my cue to leave. So far I've been right, everyone I've seen do that has sucked. Granted I've never played in a band, but if your playing through a PA what the hell do you need that much power for? Most of the best guitarists around here play small 15 to 30w amps. Am I missing something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by reverend1 View Post
    When I see a band wheeling 100w Marshall heads into a small bar, I take that as my cue to leave. So far I've been right, everyone I've seen do that has sucked. Granted I've never played in a band, but if your playing through a PA what the hell do you need that much power for? Most of the best guitarists around play small 15 to 30w amps. Am I missing something?
    No, you've pretty much hit the nail on the head with your observation. That doesn't mean I wouldn't like to have a Marshall stack someday, but I'm taking a page from the book of Prages and building my own when the money and time permit. Again, I'm lazy so I wouldn't be lugging that thing around to bars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by telecaster911 View Post
    If you cant set up in 10 minutes, it's too much.
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    Y10 minutes? I guess you are only hauling guitar gear and no PA. If so, 10 minutes is about right.

    I'm saying 1 hour for the whole band to be ready including setting up your own pa and lights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by telecaster911 View Post
    Y10 minutes? I guess you are only hauling guitar gear and no PA. If so, 10 minutes is about right.

    I'm saying 1 hour for the whole band to be ready including setting up your own pa and lights.
    never hauled a PA or lights. that stuff is provided by the venues.
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    Not around here. You need a pa to play most places.
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    Quote Originally Posted by telecaster911 View Post
    Not around here. You need a pa to play most places.
    some of the smaller bars like the Lakeside Lounge, won't even let you bring your own amps. they have a couple of Pro Jrs, a Peavey bass amp, and a small drumkit. you play their stuff or you don't play at all. eliminates the guys bringing in 100 watt stacks for a 20 person room.
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    Around here, the places that supply a pa expect you to either sell ticket with 20% going back to the band or play for the door. I don't mind that on occasion on short, opening act gigs, but it sucks to play 10-2 and have someone give you 100 bucks to split. We typically make 500 - 700 bucks for a full night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by telecaster911 View Post
    Around here, the places that supply a pa expect you to either sell ticket with 20% going back to the band or play for the door. I don't mind that on occasion on short, opening act gigs, but it sucks to play 10-2 and have someone give you 100 bucks to split. We typically make 500 - 700 bucks for a full night.
    make money? what's that?
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    Most places we play require you to bring your own PA. There has been a movement in Charleston in the past few years of clubs actually providing PA and lighting, though it's generally pretty trashy stuff. We've played through a few pretty dicey PAs in Charleston over the past couple of years. When given the option, we usually bring our own, though we've had some gremlins in our own PA the past few shows, so maybe using the trashy house PA wouldn't be such a bad alternative.

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    Most of the places that provide a pa also supply an equally shitty sound guy (that usually doubles as the doorman)
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    Quote Originally Posted by telecaster911 View Post
    Around here, the places that supply a pa expect you to either sell ticket with 20% going back to the band or play for the door. I don't mind that on occasion on short, opening act gigs, but it sucks to play 10-2 and have someone give you 100 bucks to split. We typically make 500 - 700 bucks for a full night.
    I think for our first outing we are getting 100 bucks plus whatever we make at the door @ $3 per person. I don't think it will get any better locally here. None of the places here have PA's but there's three guys around that will rent out their PA's and run sound for the evening. They aren't cheap it seems

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dexter Inferno View Post
    We need stories like these, since even fanuvbrak seems to have found himself a fairly functioning band.
    And I thank God for that every day.

    So far, the only drama we've had has been looking for a singer. We had settled on this one kid but he was young and very gay. After three practices he said he just couldn't do it anymore. He said singing songs about about women was just false for him.

    We wished him luck with his Lady Gaga tribute band.

    BUT: we have recently auditioned a singer who is really, really good. Plus, he has a personality that is very close to the band's.

    Once the final decision has been made, I will be making an announcement.


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    Quote Originally Posted by telecaster911 View Post
    Most of the places that provide a pa also supply an equally shitty sound guy (that usually doubles as the doorman)
    the one saving grace of NYC is that the shitty soundguy and shitty doorguy are two seperate people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GergS View Post
    I just got a call from crazy dude saying he just bought a 32 channel Mackie board for $850.

    "I CAN'T WAIT TO SET THIS UP ON SATURDAY!!"

    What...the...hell

    "WE CAN NO HAVE 6 SEPARATE MONITOR SENDS!!!"



    I have no idea where something like that is going to fit in the place we are playing
    Does it have a send for explosives and smoke ?

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    Other that festivals... NOBODY has a house system around here. It's one thing I'd like to do in the future is have a club geared around live music and have a killer house system with lights. I would think having open mic's and demo gigs early in the week with paid gigs on the weekends would be the way to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lino View Post
    Does it have a send for explosives and smoke ?
    dear god I hope not

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    the key to pa stuff is keep it simple yet adequate. I put together a rolling rack with the board, efx, eq's, crossover, etc all pre wired. Plug it in, plug the outputs from the xover and monitor send into the power amps rack, plug the power amps into the speakers and it's done. If you are wiring everything up during the setup, you're asking for something to go wrong usually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by telecaster911 View Post
    the key to pa stuff is keep it simple yet adequate. I put together a rolling rack with the board, efx, eq's, crossover, etc all pre wired. Plug it in, plug the outputs from the xover and monitor send into the power amps rack, plug the power amps into the speakers and it's done. If you are wiring everything up during the setup, you're asking for something to go wrong usually.
    Thats why I use a Mackie powered head. This is kind of the "standard rig" around here: http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com...FRJjgwod2gc3bA.

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