Well, since my drum machine is a piece of junk

**Jake S.** · 03-17-2010, 08:33 PM

I need some new drum stuff. I'm thinking of going with computer software this time. Spending 200 dollars on a SR-18 isn't very appealing to me, but still an option.

Is there a program I can use that you guys suggest?

**Phil513** · 03-17-2010, 08:34 PM

Buy Mark's electronic set.

I'm so tempted to buy it. I'm resisting.

**Jake S.** · 03-17-2010, 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by Phil513

Buy Mark's electronic set.

I'm so tempted to buy it. I'm resisting.

Me too.

How much is it again?

**Jeremy** · 03-17-2010, 08:38 PM

EZDrummer is the easy answer.

**Jake S.** · 03-17-2010, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by Jeremy

EZDrummer is the easy answer.

I see what you did there.

**Cheese Grits** · 03-17-2010, 08:39 PM

Get yourself a Cajon, a tambourine, some maracas, a big hand drum, some bongos and a microphone. If you buy used, you can probably come out less than $250 before the hand drum. You'd have lots of good acoustic percussion sounds right there, and the equipment could be easily stored in a closet. Also, not too noisy to record. Just a thought.

**Phil513** · 03-17-2010, 08:39 PM

Well, isn't the problem you have, the reason you bought a standalone to begin with is that the computer is a long way from where you record?

If you get a computer based drum program, arent you just in the same mess?

**Phil513** · 03-17-2010, 08:44 PM

Originally Posted by Jake S.

Me too.

How much is it again?

I dont know, he said he was going to put it and the Kurzwiel up on the spam board. I'm kinda hoping he doesnt.

**Jake S.** · 03-17-2010, 08:44 PM

Originally Posted by Phil513

Well, isn't the problem you have, the reason you bought a standalone to begin with is that the computer is a long way from where you record?

If you get a computer based drum program, arent you just in the same mess?

I wouldn't mind recording drums (I usually do that first anyways) and then putting it into my Tascam. But yeah, a drum machine would save some hassle. But if it means better sounds and less crapping out, I'll take the software.

**Kerouac** · 03-17-2010, 08:47 PM

Buy a snare, a rubbermaid container and a cracked cymbal... disregard consistency of tempo and BAM! You're Meg White without the funbags!

**Jake S.** · 03-17-2010, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by Kerouac

Buy a snare, a rubbermaid container and a cracked cymbal... disregard consistency of tempo and BAM! You're Meg White without the funbags!

Apparently March 17th is pick on Jake day, which is ironically two days before my birthday.

Meg White is a shit drummer. I won't deny that. ''My Doorbell'' has a major timing fail...and on the studio recording no less.

One of the biggest problems is how she overuses her cymbal so much.

**Mark Wein** · 03-17-2010, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by Phil513

Buy Mark's electronic set.

I'm so tempted to buy it. I'm resisting.

Originally Posted by Jake S.

Me too.

How much is it again?

Originally Posted by Phil513

I dont know, he said he was going to put it and the Kurzwiel up on the spam board. I'm kinda hoping he doesnt.

The drums are spoken for

I won't say who is buying them until it's a done deal, though. The Kurzwiel I haven't even thought of a price for, though....

Originally Posted by Jeremy

EZDrummer is the easy answer.

This or Addictive drums would probably be the answer...I have EZ drummer on both macs here...

**Jake S.** · 03-17-2010, 08:59 PM

Looking up EZdrummer on youtube right now...I likey...

**Jake S.** · 03-17-2010, 09:28 PM

Seems like the ezdrummer and addictive drums is mostly just a bunch of preset beats and not a whole lot of customization for the actual drum sets. I'd rather just make my own beats but have plenty of drum set options.

Alesis is currently in the lead. I hate this back and forth crap I always do besides buying musical crap.

**cfgsteak** · 03-17-2010, 09:33 PM

Originally Posted by Jake S.

Alesis is currently in the lead. I hate this back and forth crap I always do besides buying musical crap.

You hate that? Damn, I LOVE that.

**Jake S.** · 03-17-2010, 09:51 PM

Originally Posted by cfgsteak

You hate that? Damn, I LOVE that.

Really?

It drives me nuts.

**Chihlidog** · 03-17-2010, 09:59 PM

EZdrummer is programmable. Guys do it all the time. Its also compatible with midi controllers once it is set up correctly. I basically just use the stock beats, but it is much more than it appears on the surface. I strongly suggest it, as will many others. I really think it is going to be your best option. EZDrummer + Reaper = win.

**Mark Wein** · 03-17-2010, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by Jake S.

Seems like the ezdrummer and addictive drums is mostly just a bunch of preset beats and not a whole lot of customization for the actual drum sets. I'd rather just make my own beats but have plenty of drum set options.

Alesis is currently in the lead. I hate this back and forth crap I always do besides buying musical crap.

Actually this was my first attempt in EZ drummer. I built the drum part in the MIDI editor in ProTools:

**Phil513** · 03-17-2010, 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by Mark Wein

Actually this was my first attempt in EZ drummer. I built the drum part in the MIDI editor in ProTools:

linky?

Never mind. Weird, i can see the link when i quote, but not in the post.

I have that song on a CD in the car.

**Dew Knot Hump** · 03-17-2010, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by Phil513

Well, isn't the problem you have, the reason you bought a standalone to begin with is that the computer is a long way from where you record?

If you get a computer based drum program, arent you just in the same mess?

He could do the drum work on the computer, throw it on a jump drive and then import it into the stand alone deck.

**micwalt** · 03-17-2010, 10:26 PM

EZdrummer is great. You can program your own beats, use the stock beats, tweak the stock beats, or use triggers and play your own drums in real time (which is what I do). The sounds are real as hell. If you just put in a little time to learn how to use it, you'll dig it.

**Phil513** · 03-17-2010, 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by Dew Knot Hump

He could do the drum work on the computer, throw it on a jump drive and then import it into the stand alone deck.

Hmmm, thats possible i think. Although the female input into the deck isnt the regular USB thingie, its a small squarish plug. Im sure there are adapters though.

**Mark Wein** · 03-17-2010, 10:34 PM

Originally Posted by Mark Wein

Actually this was my first attempt in EZ drummer. I built the drum part in the MIDI editor in ProTools:

Originally Posted by Phil513

linky?

Never mind. Weird, i can see the link when i quote, but not in the post.

I have that song on a CD in the car.

You have to push the "Play" button on the mp3 player...its the sideways triangle...

**Phil513** · 03-17-2010, 10:43 PM

I'm retarded. I have no idea what you are talking about.

**OGG** · 03-17-2010, 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by Phil513

I'm retarded. I have no idea what you are talking about.

AM 640 KFI ?!?!?!

Are you listening to Dr. Fucking Laura?!

**Mark Wein** · 03-17-2010, 10:46 PM

Attachment 554

I guess the player isn't showing in your browser.....

**Phil513** · 03-17-2010, 10:46 PM

KFI got rid of doc laura a long time ago. hahaha. Thank god, i can't stand her.

Im listening to John and Ken beat up on politicians.

**Mark Wein** · 03-17-2010, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by OGG

AM 640 KFI ?!?!?!

Are you listening to Dr. Fucking Laura?!

:rotfl:

**Phil513** · 03-17-2010, 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by Mark Wein

Attachment 554

I guess the player isn't showing in your browser.....

I fail. Maybe its a setting, i'll check it out. Or switch to Firefox. I'll have to ask our IT guy before i do that though.

**Mark Wein** · 03-17-2010, 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by Phil513

I fail. Maybe its a setting, i'll check it out. Or switch to Firefox. I'll have to ask our IT guy before i do that though.

Anyone else have this problem?

**micwalt** · 03-17-2010, 10:52 PM

Originally Posted by Mark Wein

Anyone else have this problem?

Player's working for me.

**Phil513** · 03-17-2010, 10:53 PM

It's always just me. Jeez.

**micwalt** · 03-17-2010, 10:53 PM

Originally Posted by Dew Knot Hump

He could do the drum work on the computer, throw it on a jump drive and then import it into the stand alone deck.

I do my drums on a laptop, render a .wav, burn it to disc, and import it to my standalone.
Slightly time consuming, but in the grand scheme of things, not really so bad.

**micwalt** · 03-17-2010, 10:54 PM

Oh and here's another example of EZdrummer:
http://hc.bloodyvelvet.com/files/225...%20backing.mp3

**Jake S.** · 03-17-2010, 11:18 PM

Is that the talk radio station that plays Round and Round on traffic updates?

EZdrummer seems like the best according to you guys. I may buy, stay tuned.

**Phil513** · 03-17-2010, 11:20 PM

Originally Posted by Jake S.

Is that the talk radio station that plays Round and Round on traffic updates?

EZdrummer seems like the best according to you guys. I may buy, stay tuned.

yes

**Mark Wein** · 03-17-2010, 11:20 PM

Originally Posted by Phil513

It's always just me. Jeez.

**T-BoneBarnet** · 03-17-2010, 11:33 PM

Originally Posted by Jake S.

Is that the talk radio station that plays Round and Round on traffic updates?

EZdrummer seems like the best according to you guys. I may buy, stay tuned.

Jake, just to reiterate what the others have said, what you can do is load in one of the preset patterns in EZD and then edit it later to suit your needs. Probably easier way to go than building everything up from scratch. Also look into Steven Slate Drums. You missed the $20 deal he had on his, but still less than $200. There are also more kits to choose from in Steven Slate Drums (including 2 kits modelled on John Bonham's kit).

http://www.audiomidi.com/searchresul...Site%20Content

**Jake S.** · 03-17-2010, 11:40 PM

Originally Posted by Mark Wein

Actually this was my first attempt in EZ drummer. I built the drum part in the MIDI editor in ProTools:

Originally Posted by micwalt

Oh and here's another example of EZdrummer:
http://hc.bloodyvelvet.com/files/225...%20backing.mp3

I just can't dig the drum sounds. The snare on both of those are just so weak to me.

Originally Posted by Phil513

yes

Favorite part of that radio station.

**Ronk** · 03-18-2010, 12:24 AM

There used to be a thread here were someone explained how to create beats...

**Chihlidog** · 03-18-2010, 12:36 AM

Originally Posted by Jake S.

I just can't dig the drum sounds. The snare on both of those are just so weak to me.

Favorite part of that radio station.

If youre looking for lots of sound options, EZDrummer might not be your best bet. There is one kit that comes with the standard purchase, and you can get expansion packs, but this can get pricey. However, with some time, eqing, and effects, the drums can sound big enough.

**Phil513** · 03-18-2010, 01:19 AM

Hey Chihli, do you have the ability to write, copy, paste, all that stuff in EZDrummer by itself? Or can you only use it as an add on to Reaper or something like that? Can i make a drum track using the software by itself on my computer?

**Chihlidog** · 03-18-2010, 01:22 AM

Here, I just tossed this together, the kick is a bit tighter and thumpier, and it is EQed a bit more towards the metal side since I know you like that. Guitars sound like crap but it was a 10-minute slap-tracks-down deal. You get the idea.

**Chihlidog** · 03-18-2010, 01:23 AM

Originally Posted by Phil513

Hey Chihli, do you have the ability to write, copy, paste, all that stuff in EZDrummer by itself? Or can you only use it as an add on to Reaper or something like that? Can i make a drum track using the software by itself on my computer?

No, you need to open EZdrummer in a DAW. But Reaper is cheap. (Well....free if you want it to be. )

**Phil513** · 03-18-2010, 01:27 AM

I have Audacity, but i dont know if it will handle it. I'll look into reaper. I have my drum machine, but the editing of the EZDrummer looks a whole lot more, well, easy. hahaha.

I think i'll look at heading in this direction.

**Chihlidog** · 03-18-2010, 01:29 AM

Originally Posted by Phil513

I have Audacity, but i dont know if it will handle it. I'll look into reaper. I have my drum machine, but the editing of the EZDrummer looks a whole lot more, well, easy. hahaha.

I think i'll look at heading in this direction.

Audacity should open it, but that's just an assumption on my part. You open EZDrummer in the effects section so if it runs other effects, it will run it just fine.

**Phil513** · 03-18-2010, 01:30 AM

Cool. Well i can start there, and then if it doesnt work deal with it then.

**Jake S.** · 03-18-2010, 06:51 AM

Yeah, I've heard the kit and it just sounds weak to me. I can't listen right now to your clip Chili, but I will tomorrow morning. Thanks guys!

**Jake S.** · 03-18-2010, 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by Chihlidog

Here, I just tossed this together, the kick is a bit tighter and thumpier, and it is EQed a bit more towards the metal side since I know you like that. Guitars sound like crap but it was a 10-minute slap-tracks-down deal. You get the idea.

Better than most I've heard, but still just can't dig it.