Led Zeppelin

jrockbridge said:
Your stanning of Zep is noted. Your distaste for Oasis is obvious.

Zep was a great band that created great music. Even their plagiarism songs brought those tunes to greater heights. I’m a fan. Yet, as @bsman posted, “…that doesn't mean I think they're beyond reproach musically. and they are frequently silly and self-indulgent.”
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This was a test. You passed with flying colors. You will soon be contacted with tickets to the free show listed below.
Seriously though. I'm not really the biggest LZ fan. I got burned out from the overplay. There's no denying how huge they were though. Maybe I was out of touch, but I cant recall Oasis being anywhere near as big to warrant a comparison. Wonder wall and Champay Supanover. That's all I got.
I thinks it's at a Denver bowling alley.
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Andrew Sak said:
This was a test. You passed with flying colors. You will soon be contacted with tickets to the free show listed below.
Seriously though. I'm not really the biggest LZ fan. I got burned out from the overplay. There's no denying how huge they were though. Maybe I was out of touch, but I cant recall Oasis being anywhere near as big to warrant a comparison. Wonder wall and Champay Supanover. That's all I got.
I thinks it's at a Denver bowling alley.
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Oasis was not as big in the US as they were in the rest of the world. I like some of their music, but I’m not a huge fan. Liam’s singing style sounds like he’s singing through his nose. That nasal vocal style grates on me after awhile.

As far as 90’s UK bands go, Radiohead is a much bigger deal to me. I also listen to Blur. Yet, Oasis were the bigger band.

Zep were huge in the US. Oasis were not. I never said Oasis were equal to Zep in any way. You made the leap there. My points were about plagiarism and worldwide popularity. Those points are valid despite your protests.
 
jrockbridge said:
Oasis was not as big in the US as they were in the rest of the world. I like some of their music, but I’m not a huge fan. Liam’s singing style sounds like he’s singing through his nose. That nasal vocal style grates on me after awhile.
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Liam does sing through his nose. It’s because he even ripped off Lennon’s weaknesses.
 
jrockbridge said:
Oasis was not as big in the US as they were in the rest of the world. I like some of their music, but I’m not a huge fan. Liam’s singing style sounds like he’s singing through his nose. That nasal vocal style grates on me after awhile.

As far as 90’s UK bands go, Radiohead is a much bigger deal to me. I also listen to Blur. Yet, Oasis were the bigger band.

Zep were huge in the US. Oasis were not. I never said Oasis were equal to Zep in any way. You made the leap there. My points were about plagiarism and worldwide popularity. Those points are valid despite your protests.
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They are valid points. You can compare Flipper to Moby Dick. They both belong to the whale family.
 
Have been a fan as long as I can remember. My recent knowledge of Page's underage proclivities make it hard to justify remaining one.

I have a general practice of ending my consumption of goods, services, and creations of shitty people and corporations. The notion of separating the art from artist is only workable for my mind if the person changed from when they created the art (and that can work both ways). If they were always trash, doing vile things, and it's revealed, I'm out.

I have been a big fan of almost everything Plant has done outside of Zeppelin and any Page collaboration. The quality of his work outside of Zeppelin is excellent. And when comparing it to Page's post-Zeppelin work, it's clear how much more important Plant was to Page's success.

Sabbath, Purple, Queen, Cream (yeah, Clapton's on my no fly list), Hendrix, Rush, Metallica, Soundgarden, King's X, Neil Young, and others have written riffs that are equal to Zeppelin's best for me. Like Zeppelin, the common thread is that the band's are what made it work, not just the guitarists or writers, but the unit.

Rant, rave, ramble, blah, blah, blah...
 
jp_nyc said:
Liam does sing through his nose. It’s because he even ripped off Lennon’s weaknesses.
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I think that’s an unfair assessment of John Lennon. John had various vocal styles. He used the nasal singing technique on specific songs, not all the time.

Liam Gallagher’s nasal wine is an overly exaggerated version of what Lennon did. Liam leaned into it that technique to the extreme, yet lacks the vocal versatility that John had.
 
Andrew Sak said:
He was really Rambling On on Colbert last night.

Lovely instruments.
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Just saw that on the gear page. I think it’s great. IMO it’s how and elder statesman of a group with Led Zeppelin’s heritage should respectfully represent themselves in their later years. And, it freaking sounds great.
 
Does anybody really think that Jimmy Page was in the minority of musicians since the beginning of music that boned underage girls? I’m not saying it’s right but I’m pretty sure groupies aren’t getting carded. In the seventies there were still many states where it was legal to marry a 16 year old.
 
Dew Knot Humps said:
Does anybody really think that Jimmy Page was in the minority of musicians since the beginning of music that boned underage girls? I’m not saying it’s right but I’m pretty sure groupies aren’t getting carded. In the seventies there were still many states where it was legal to marry a 16 year old.
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There is not much nuance in the way people judge pedo behavior. Everyone is thrown into the same category of judgment.

Many rock stars had one night stands with underage groupies. When Jimmy Page was 29 he began a relationship with a 14 year old girl that lasted for 2 years. The girl described the relationship as very loving. Regardless of those details, it’s still wrong. The age of consent in many states is 16 (18 in others). Therefore, the sexual relationship represented statutory rape. Page was judged a filthy child molester.

Page moved on when the girl was 16. His next girlfriend was a 19 year old model.
 
Dew Knot Humps said:
Does anybody really think that Jimmy Page was in the minority of musicians since the beginning of music that boned underage girls? I’m not saying it’s right but I’m pretty sure groupies aren’t getting carded. In the seventies there were still many states where it was legal to marry a 16 year old.
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It wasn’t just musicians doing it. There used to be lots of older guys in relationships with teenage girls. In the 1990s I went to high school with teenage girls who had boyfriends in their early 20s. Society being extremely opposed to these relationships and calling anyone over 18 who has sex with anyone under 18 a pedophile is a relatively recent thing. I think it’s mostly because of social media bandwagons.
 
This was posted on YT March 29, 2026….

“As a footnote to Physical Graffiti, I thought you might like to hear the original home demo, recorded in my studio at Plumpton Place of a piece of music that was going to surface as Ten Years Gone.”

“I presented this rough mix to the band at Headley Grange in order to do this for real. Robert Plant came up with some lyrics for my music that were extraordinary and then we arrive at the song Ten Years Gone.”
~Jimmy Page

Ten Years Gone - Home Demo

 
I’m in a chronological listen to Plant’s post/non Zep work and love the sound and feel of Robbie Blunt, Doug Boyle, and Kevin MacMichael got on these albums. Then the Americana feel of so much he's done over the last couple of decades. It's just so good. Nothing Page has done comes close.
 
Most 70s rock tended to the silly and self-indulgent. Some I tolerated and a lot of it I just couldn’t. By the disco era I’d wrote off 90% of it, and as good as they were Zep was one of ‘em that I outgrew any enjoyment of.
The best were the ones who just stood up there and played music. The Dead, the Allmans, Little Feat, etc.
They are the ones I still enjoy as an old man.
 
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