Flatspotter
What?
Is it just a coincidence that if you remove the "L" from "Larsed," you're left with "arsed?"
I was indeed showing you that Liddy was paraphrasing a common quote.
Not sure what the insulting tone was about.
That's not a G. Gordon Liddy quote.
the problem with arguing with people who google is that they somehow feel confident in the quality of online information
Dang.
Liddy exasperates from the grave! party0009panic0:trollface:
Lighten up, Frances. (That's a sergeant Hulka quote, you can Google it).
Anyhow, can't we get back to hating on Lars? The album w/Lou Reed is probably one of the worst vanity projects of all time, and that's saying something given the participants.
I'm with you!Well this went to the dogs alright.
Never ceases to amaze me how touchy previous and current Metallica fans are at the slightest dig or poking a bit of fun at one of them. Not even Dream Theater fans are this bad. No sense of humour whatsoever. It's like telling a teacher they got long vacations (if you haven't tried that, do it)
Was only having a laugh, nothing more.
There was no dig, just a video of a bloke who just nailed Lars' mannerisms and playing style (and lack of musical taste).
Some of you guys need to lighten the fuck up.
I'm with you!
I'm not a Metallica fan, but I appreciate their decades long dedication and the impact they've had. I know the whole Napster thing made Lars a target, but I just don't get the incessant bashing of the guy. What's the point?
When my oldest is listening to his 5 Finger Deathpunch and similar music I hear a whole bunch of guys that whatever their skill level, have a drum sound and playing style dripping with Lars' obvious inspiration. Virtually every New Metal Drummer is trying to re-create the Black Album. I'm totally down with that, because it is one of the most sonically perfect records ever made. Like the songs or not, the production and ESPECIALLY the drum sound is nothing short of amazing.
Ahh, see... I LOVE that aspect of it. Maybe it's in part to my higher frequency hearing degradation, but I love nice crisp cymbals.My only beef with the production on the Black Album is how fucking loud the hi-hats are. Super bright, super compressed and IMO they just jut out too far over everything. I don't know if that was because of the digital transfer or if it was that way on the vinyl and cassette copies, but once you hear it you can't unhear it.
Pretty sure we didn't need the history lesson, and your entire post is completely unrelated to the question. That question (and I quite clearly qualified it), soley and exclusively was about bashing Lars AS A DRUMMER. The whole Napster thing had already been dredged up and discussed earlier in the thread.Here's "the point" of bashing Lars.
In the late 90's, the RIAA underwrote a series of lawsuits filed against Napster users. In many of those cases, the person had downloaded less than 40 songs. And the litigation sought massive damages against these individuals, specifically to put them in bankruptcy as a 'lesson to others.'
Think on that. Downloading a few dozen tunes should lead you to financial ruin? I don't think so. And let me insert this: I vividly remember watching my own copyrights from artists I worked with, and copyrights I owned, on the screen as it was happening in real time on Audiogalaxy.
My response wasn't "those people need to be hurt so badly that they can't recover." But Lars' was. So was Gene Simmons.
They reveled in the ruin of poor, regular people. Not 'expressed regret,' no, they reveled in it. Expressed enjoyment. So did a number of other people I knew personally. I disagree with that in very strong terms, even as a (mild) victim of the crime it was intended to stop. (Which it didn't, btw).
That run of lawsuits - which featured judge shopping, 'expert testimonials' that were pure pseudoscientific bunk, and flat out lying by corporate giants, didn't really stop until two things happened:
1. Judges became more familiar with the technology; and
2. The EFF got involved.
Having proportionate penalties is a hallmark of sane laws. Retributive, asymmetric and vindictive justice disgusts me, especially when it's millionaires targeting the poor.
Fuck Lars Ulrich.
I didn't say anything about which were ok and which were not ok. I simply made it even more clear that my question was exclusively about the incessant bashing of the man as a drummer, not as a man. It's become fashionable to shit on the guy's musical ability. The RIAA stuff had nothing whatsoever to do with the question and was irrelevant.Exchanging opinions is fine; I think it odd that you'd feel comfortable saying which are and are not okay. To answer your question, I'm aware of a dozen or so people whose lives were really throttled by RIAA suits, and many more who were stressed, etc.
I don't like Lars Ulrich, and I think it's a fine idea to hold past behavior against those who neither repent nor change (see: Weinstein, Harvey).
I also don't agree that the topic is long over; speaking of royalties, I'm certain you aren't 'enjoying' any checks you may or may not be receiving from Spotify.