"Latin" Bb Minor Backing Track Jam!

[Krish]

i thought this forum could use some BT jam action! just something to record/have a lil fun in between the recordingfests etc.

i know, "Not Another Aebersold!"

but this one popped up on shuffle :lol: and i actually liked it. its got a nice groove.

its just Bbminor the whole way through. the track is really long, so cut it down if ya feel like it! i know i wont be soloin for 6 minutes!

http://www.mediafire.com/?wjjmnegjkzz

im postin this tonight just to get started, but i wont get around to recording it until tomorrow morning.

"Put Or Shut Up" :p

[Coda]

...I took a stab at it...its sloppy, and I just wend direct in, I didnt feel like setting up the mic and all that...I love playing along to Abersol though...back when I was gigging regularly, I would just riff along, made it easier soloin during a gig...

http://soundclick.com/share?songid=8476336

[Krish]

that was quick! :eek:

ill give it a listen in a minute. recording a stream right now. :thu:

[Krish]

totally missed the "backing track" forum. :facepalm:

[hobo]

...I took a stab at it...its sloppy, and I just wend direct in, I didnt feel like setting up the mic and all that...I love playing along to Abersol though...back when I was gigging regularly, I would just riff along, made it easier soloin during a gig...

http://soundclick.com/share?songid=8476336

hey coda

nice play'n there :aok:

[Mark Wein]

Very cool! I'll definitely give this a whack in the next day or so. Mosidiqi and I were just discussing doing a weekly BT jam.....I'm going to let this stay her until tomorrow to let everyone see it and then I'll move it to the backing track forum once it gets some traction....:thu:

[rsadasiv]

I usually spend a lot of time working out what I want to play and then spend even more time figuring out how to execute it ...



"Put Or Shut Up" :p

but since you put it that way ;)

Here you go - my second listen to the song, first take on the guitar.

http://soundclick.com/share?songid=8477194

[rsadasiv]

...I took a stab at it...its sloppy, and I just wend direct in, I didnt feel like setting up the mic and all that...I love playing along to Abersol though...back when I was gigging regularly, I would just riff along, made it easier soloin during a gig...

http://soundclick.com/share?songid=8476336

Good track - got some nice Grant Green moves in there. :thu:

[mosiddiqi]

Excellent!..I'll have a go at this in the next day or so.

[Mark Wein]

Bump before I move this one...

[Coda]

Good track - got some nice Grant Green moves in there. :thu:

...yea, Grant Green is all over my playing...Ive studied him very closely...they never liked that at college, my professor would always say "you really love that pentatonic box, dont you?"...he's from the Wynton Marsalis school of thought...a great guy, but its all bop with him, playing the changes real tight...I like just sitting back and jamming...

[mosiddiqi]

...I took a stab at it...its sloppy, and I just wend direct in, I didnt feel like setting up the mic and all that...I love playing along to Abersol though...back when I was gigging regularly, I would just riff along, made it easier soloin during a gig...

http://soundclick.com/share?songid=8476336

Very nice!...cool phrasing...especially the "stutter" stuff :thu:


I usually spend a lot of time working out what I want to play and then spend even more time figuring out how to execute it ...



but since you put it that way ;)

Here you go - my second listen to the song, first take on the guitar.

http://soundclick.com/share?songid=8477194

Wicked!..:thu:...I really like the chordy stuff and the "blue" notes..tasty.


Here's mine :o...I did my usual Strat/Marshall type thing..probably not right for this type of stuff :D..and it all went a bit weird around 1.30...and I stopped playing after 2.00..but forgot to trim the MP3 down :facepalm:

http://www.box.net/shared/v8l5hpoy4n

[rsadasiv]

Here's mine :o...I did my usual Strat/Marshall type thing..probably not right for this type of stuff :D..and it all went a bit weird around 1.30...and I stopped playing after 2.00..but forgot to trim the MP3 down :facepalm:

http://www.box.net/shared/v8l5hpoy4n

Very cool - has a nice Santana vibe to it.

[mosiddiqi]

Very cool - has a nice Santana vibe to it.

Thanks!...I guess the Dorian mode with an overdriven sound is usually going to head that way :)

[requiem156]

Here's mine :o...I did my usual Strat/Marshall type thing..probably not right for this type of stuff :D..and it all went a bit weird around 1.30...and I stopped playing after 2.00..but forgot to trim the MP3 down :facepalm:

http://www.box.net/shared/v8l5hpoy4n

That was quite nice. :aok:

I have an incredible backlog of backing tracks to get to (well, 3), but this one's on the list. This weekend, if not sooner. If I don't keep posting clips, jawbreakerr might forget to mock my playing. :)

[mosiddiqi]

That was quite nice. :aok:

I have an incredible backlog of backing tracks to get to (well, 3), but this one's on the list. This weekend, if not sooner. If I don't keep posting clips, jawbreakerr might forget to mock my playing. :)

Thanks requiem! :thu:


Get to work :p

[rsadasiv]

If I don't keep posting clips, jawbreakerr might forget to mock my playing. :)

As of right now, I don't think Krish is in a position to mock anyone. ;)

[Krish]

:(

[requiem156]

As of right now, I don't think Krish is in a position to mock anyone. ;)

You may not think so - I might even agree with you. I doubt that will change the facts.

[mosiddiqi]

:(

I didn't think mine was that bad :( :idk:

[Krish]

You may not think so - I might even agree with you. I doubt that will change the facts.

:facepalm:

[Krish]

Here we go: I ended playin about 4 minutes on this one! ... phew!

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=1019493

first clip of my new Tele. i decided to "go fusion" on this one. something was missing with just the clean tone....

Its stuff like this that makes me love improvisation. You never know whats gonna come out. i always play stuff ill never be able to pull off again. :cry: i play this badass line at around 3:12 in.. ill have to go back and transcribe that one! :lol:

[mosiddiqi]

Here we go: I ended playin about 4 minutes on this one! ... phew!

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=1019493

first clip of my new Tele. i decided to "go fusion" on this one. something was missing with just the clean tone....

Its stuff like this that makes me love improvisation. You never know whats gonna come out. i always play stuff ill never be able to pull off again. :cry: i play this badass line at around 3:12 in.. ill have to go back and transcribe that one! :lol:

That's really good! :thu:...you definitely know your way round this stuff don't you? :o...yours' is kind of like what I wanted to play..but I played a lot safer. :(....typical rock guy.

[rsadasiv]

Here we go: I ended playin about 4 minutes on this one! ... phew!

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=1019493

first clip of my new Tele. i decided to "go fusion" on this one. something was missing with just the clean tone....

Its stuff like this that makes me love improvisation. You never know whats gonna come out. i always play stuff ill never be able to pull off again. :cry: i play this badass line at around 3:12 in.. ill have to go back and transcribe that one! :lol:

Your mocking privileges are hereby restored. :D

[Mark Wein]

Here we go: I ended playin about 4 minutes on this one! ... phew!

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=1019493

first clip of my new Tele. i decided to "go fusion" on this one. something was missing with just the clean tone....

Its stuff like this that makes me love improvisation. You never know whats gonna come out. i always play stuff ill never be able to pull off again. :cry: i play this badass line at around 3:12 in.. ill have to go back and transcribe that one! :lol:

That is part of why we do it. I hated the gig that I posted the board tapes for a few days ago but I did find a few moments that I really dug.

[Mark Wein]

Nice take, btw Krish....

[Krish]

Here you go - my second listen to the song, first take on the guitar.

http://soundclick.com/share?songid=8477194

very nice. :thu: im diggin the tone.




http://soundclick.com/share?songid=8476336

heh. the first thing i thought was Grant Green. :p I went through a huge G. Green phase. it took me a long time to get out of that box. :lol:




http://www.box.net/shared/v8l5hpoy4n

very niice. we had a lot of similar sounding lines. :lol: my friend in the other room was like, "is that you?"

[mosiddiqi]

very niice. we had a lot of similar sounding lines. :lol: my friend in the other room was like, "is that you?"

:lol:..yep, a lot of dorian based lines with emphasis on the 6ths and 9ths..cheers! :thu:

[rsadasiv]

I talked about approaches for soloing over modal backing tracks with my guitar teacher last night. One of his suggestions was "try emphasizing 6ths and 9ths - it makes you sound more sophisticated".

:facepalm:

[mosiddiqi]

I talked about approaches for soloing over modal backing tracks with my guitar teacher last night. One of his suggestions was "try emphasizing 6ths and 9ths - it makes you sound more sophisticated".

:facepalm:

:D....As I'm primarily a rock/metal type player...targetting the 6ths and 9ths does sound jazzier to me..:idk:..particularly that move where you slide into the 9 from the b9......but that's probably because I'm so used to hearing/playing licks that resolve on the root/3rd..:facepalm:

[requiem156]

Here we go: I ended playin about 4 minutes on this one! ... phew!

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=1019493

first clip of my new Tele. i decided to "go fusion" on this one. something was missing with just the clean tone....

Its stuff like this that makes me love improvisation. You never know whats gonna come out. i always play stuff ill never be able to pull off again. :cry: i play this badass line at around 3:12 in.. ill have to go back and transcribe that one! :lol:

That's really good. I really like your willingness to wait and let a line fall into place, rather than rushing through to the next idea.

[fusebop]

Hai Gyes! I'm new here but I like to JAM!

Here's my take...
Carlos Castaneda Satana's Not So Smooth Shroom Trip (http://rapidshare.com/files/321746869/Carlos_Satana_s_Shroom_Trip.mp3.html)

http://hc.bloodyvelvet.com/files/231/CarlosSatanaShroomTrip.mp3

Be warned: EXTREME WANKERY content. Also, extensive .11 string bend
testing somewhere in the middle.

Oh, and a nice warm hello to all the familiar faces I see here. :jj:

[Coda]

heh. the first thing i thought was Grant Green. :p I went through a huge G. Green phase. it took me a long time to get out of that box. :lol:

...Its what I do...his playing makes the most sense to me...hes not wanking all over modes, or sounding clinical, he's just doing his thing...the reason I quit Jazz in college was because they wanted me to play like Charlie Parker on the guitar, and I didnt, they were happy with me playing anything that made me happy...next to Trane, there was no better Jazz musician that Grant Green...imo...

[Krish]

...Its what I do...his playing makes the most sense to me...hes not wanking all over modes, or sounding clinical, he's just doing his thing...the reason I quit Jazz in college was because they wanted me to play like Charlie Parker on the guitar, and I didnt, they were happy with me playing anything that made me happy...next to Trane, there was no better Jazz musician that Grant Green...imo...

i hear ya, but i also understand where your teachers were coming from. Grant Green is only scratching the surface of whats possible with the jazz language. hes also alot easier and bluesy than most.. i think thats why alot of beginner jazzers are attracted to him. (myself included, the first jazz solo i learned was a Green one, "Solid")

i think hes a great foundation to have, as you can always go back to those great simple lines that just sound good.. but i needed something more. Grant Green wont get you through a song with Coltrane changes. or tunes like Inner Urge, etc.... now, of course that might be the opposite of the kind of music you play, but in a university setting, theyve gotta challenge to learn more than just what you want.

itd be hard for me to go to school and want to be a doctor but not want to put in the full amount of work to learn all that i can. (not a good analogy, but you get my point)

and Grant Green to Coltrane.. thats quite a big leap.. surely there are musicians inbetween you could learn from.

Dexter Gordon for one! hes like a Coltrane thats easier to digest.

[Mark Wein]

I took a quick whack at this one just now....bouncing the track right now. I'm not in love with my playing but I tried using my actual amp for once and only had time for two takes...I'll post in a few minutes...

[Mark Wein]

http://markweinguitarlessons.com/soundfiles/minorlatin.mp3

ouch...the guitar is way too loud...I'll have to fix it later...

[Coda]

i hear ya, but i also understand where your teachers were coming from. Grant Green is only scratching the surface of whats possible with the jazz language. hes also alot easier and bluesy than most.. i think thats why alot of beginner jazzers are attracted to him. (myself included, the first jazz solo i learned was a Green one, "Solid")

i think hes a great foundation to have, as you can always go back to those great simple lines that just sound good.. but i needed something more. Grant Green wont get you through a song with Coltrane changes. or tunes like Inner Urge, etc.... now, of course that might be the opposite of the kind of music you play, but in a university setting, theyve gotta challenge to learn more than just what you want.

itd be hard for me to go to school and want to be a doctor but not want to put in the full amount of work to learn all that i can. (not a good analogy, but you get my point)

and Grant Green to Coltrane.. thats quite a big leap.. surely there are musicians inbetween you could learn from.

Dexter Gordon for one! hes like a Coltrane thats easier to digest.

...I love Dexter Gordon, as well as others, but Grant Green and Coltrane make the most sense to me, they both did what they wanted, regardless of what others thought...the thing with college was, I foolishly assumed that I would be able to develop as a musician, instead, they wanted me to copy note for note what someone else already came up with...If I wanted to play something note for note, I would have studied classical music...

...and with the Trane changes, I doubt he sat down and thought, "hmm, I think i'll pick these modes and scales to use because they fit over what im doing here"...he was just doing his thing...and that was good enough for him...its the people that analyze everything so much that take the fun out of it...

...I know whats possible with the jazz language, but I dont want to memorize other people speeches, I want to make my own...Im not about to rewrite great expectations and call it my own...you want great expectations?, than heres the original...if your interested in what I have to say, then have a seat while I tune up here...

[rsadasiv]

I am totally on board with doing whatever floats your boat as opposed to just doing what people tell you to do - that part is absolutely fine with me.



...and with the Trane changes, I doubt he sat down and thought, "hmm, I think i'll pick these modes and scales to use because they fit over what im doing here"...he was just doing his thing...and that was good enough for him...its the people that analyze everything so much that take the fun out of it...

But I don't think you are giving Coltrane nearly enough credit here. I understand you don't like to analyze things, but if you were to analyze, say, Giant Steps, Coltrane's connection of modes and scales to a specific chord progression seems quite conscious and intentional.

[rsadasiv]

Here we go: I ended playin about 4 minutes on this one! ... phew!

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=1019493

first clip of my new Tele. i decided to "go fusion" on this one. something was missing with just the clean tone....

Its stuff like this that makes me love improvisation. You never know whats gonna come out. i always play stuff ill never be able to pull off again. :cry: i play this badass line at around 3:12 in.. ill have to go back and transcribe that one! :lol:

That line at 3:12 truly is some badass playing :thu:. I like the way you stay relaxed and slightly behind the beat. The reverb/room sound on the guitar doesn't really match up well with the very dry sounding backing track.

[rsadasiv]

Hai Gyes! I'm new here but I like to JAM!

Here's my take...
Carlos Castaneda Satana's Not So Smooth Shroom Trip (http://rapidshare.com/files/321746869/Carlos_Satana_s_Shroom_Trip.mp3.html)

http://hc.bloodyvelvet.com/files/231/CarlosSatanaShroomTrip.mp3

Be warned: EXTREME WANKERY content. Also, extensive .11 string bend
testing somewhere in the middle.

Oh, and a nice warm hello to all the familiar faces I see here. :jj:

Alright - more Santana style Dorian!!! Not totally in love with the phase effect. Playing is excellent - always dig your stuff.

[Coda]

I am totally on board with doing whatever floats your boat as opposed to just doing what people tell you to do - that part is absolutely fine with me.



But I don't think you are giving Coltrane nearly enough credit here. I understand you don't like to analyze things, but if you were to analyze, say, Giant Steps, Coltrane's connection of modes and scales to a specific chord progression seems quite conscious and intentional.

...I agree...especially taking Countdown from Tune up...but once he wrote these tunes, I dont think he was going around bragging about it...no one sat him down and told him he had to do that, he did it by his own accord because he wanted to...I understand how it works, I just choose to play what I want, and not what I feel I have to...if you want to a run up and down scales, then thats your thing, but dont start telling me what I can and cannot do...as you can see, I have a lot of aggression towards college...

[rsadasiv]

http://markweinguitarlessons.com/soundfiles/minorlatin.mp3

ouch...the guitar is way too loud...I'll have to fix it later...

+1 on the guitar level (especially in the beginning). Nice job with the finger picked chords interspersed with the flat picked leads. Is that the Bassman? Digging the tone.

[Mark Wein]

+1 on the guitar level (especially in the beginning). Nice job with the finger picked chords interspersed with the flat picked leads. Is that the Bassman? Digging the tone.

Thanks! It's actually my Deluxe. It works for about an hour before it dies, so I can still record with it :o

I need to listen to the other takes tomorrow...

[Krish]

...I agree...especially taking Countdown from Tune up...but once he wrote these tunes, I dont think he was going around bragging about it...no one sat him down and told him he had to do that, he did it by his own accord because he wanted to...I understand how it works, I just choose to play what I want, and not what I feel I have to...if you want to a run up and down scales, then thats your thing, but dont start telling me what I can and cannot do...as you can see, I have a lot of aggression towards college...

like i said, i hear ya. but i think you are selling Coltrane short.

he practiced everyday, nonstop. he learned tons of solos from his favorite sax players. (charlie parker, sonny rollins, dexter...) You arent ever just gonna come up with some language out of thin air. Everything you play is a reflection of what youve played/heard before. Coltrane studied his ass of with scales, and the Slominsky Thesaurus etc...

how are you ever going to "breakthrough" if you just stay with whats comfortable?

if you got to college and you just wanted to play in that Grant Green style, then whats the point of going to college? if you just wanted to do what you wanted to do, you couldve saved yourself some money! :p
.

[Coda]

like i said, i hear ya. but i think you are selling Coltrane short.

he practiced everyday, nonstop. he learned tons of solos from his favorite sax players. (charlie parker, sonny rollins, dexter...) You arent ever just gonna come up with some language out of thin air. Everything you play is a reflection of what youve played/heard before. Coltrane studied his ass of with scales, and the Slominsky Thesaurus etc...

how are you ever going to "breakthrough" if you just stay with whats comfortable?

if you got to college and you just wanted to play in that Grant Green style, then whats the point of going to college? if you just wanted to do what you wanted to do, you couldve saved yourself some money! :p
.

...I didnt just want to play "grant green style"...I think your selling me short...I wanted to improve...but all I got was a stack of Cd's and the instructions "memorize these solo's"...I could have done that at home, without having to pay thousands of dollars...I think Jazz education in College is horrible...its much too hands off, and depends way to much on a set standard...theres no individual...everyone plays the same thing...it totally defeats the point of jazz...I have nothing against learning what made other people tick, but I dont want to sound like that, I want to do what ever I happen to do, but they say you cant do that until you proved you can i.e. wasted a few y ears and a lot of money going to graduate school...

...What I love about jazz is that is personal...Monk once said "Jazz is freedom" and for me, it was, until I went to college, then it became stale and traditional...gone was the freedom to create, replaced by a catechism that is collegiate jazz education...


...I dont know, I guess im just not willing to accept that what I thought was freedom was nothing more than another organized structure...

[requiem156]

I think pretty much all music has an organized structure component, and a creative component. If there was no organized structure, how would they teach it in college? There has to be a standardized curriculum, and a group of standards that apply across the board - otherwise all your achievements would be subjective. idn_smilie

[mosiddiqi]

http://markweinguitarlessons.com/soundfiles/minorlatin.mp3

ouch...the guitar is way too loud...I'll have to fix it later...

Great take Mark! :thu:..I like the way you build the lines logically and take your time with it. Very cool.

[hobo]

Very nice!...cool phrasing...especially the "stutter" stuff :thu:



Wicked!..:thu:...I really like the chordy stuff and the "blue" notes..tasty.


Here's mine :o...I did my usual Strat/Marshall type thing..probably not right for this type of stuff :D..and it all went a bit weird around 1.30...and I stopped playing after 2.00..but forgot to trim the MP3 down :facepalm:

http://www.box.net/shared/v8l5hpoy4n


hey mos thats some very nice playing , just don't know where you get all that talent :aok:

[Mark Wein]

Great take Mark! :thu:..I like the way you build the lines logically and take your time with it. Very cool.

Thanks!

my playing has taken something of a backseat the last few weeks with business and the forum so this was something of a struggle. Micwalts BT I took a whack at and missed...:facepalm:

[mosiddiqi]

Thanks!

my playing has taken something of a backseat the last few weeks with business and the forum so this was something of a struggle. Micwalts BT I took a whack at and missed...:facepalm:

:D

At least you're sensible enough to not post your misses. :facepalm:

[Mark Wein]

:D

At least you're sensible enough to not post your misses. :facepalm:

:o

[mosiddiqi]

hey mos thats some very nice playing , just don't know where you get all that talent :aok:

Thank you kind sir! :)....I just steal stuff from everyone :o