The "Recording fest for guys who have done this before" [Archive]

Mark Wein

02-20-2009, 07:10 PM

Chihlidog

02-20-2009, 07:14 PM

Prages, you know you wanna let me roll down to your house and do a collaboration :p

Prages

02-20-2009, 07:20 PM

Prages, you know you wanna let me roll down to your house and do a collaboration :p

You're more than welcome.

Pittsburgh is about 2 1/2 hours away, so it's not completely out of the question.

Chihlidog

02-20-2009, 07:21 PM

You're more than welcome.

Pittsburgh is about 2 1/2 hours away, so it's not completely out of the question.

I was just messin with ya. I couldnt hold up to your abilities :cool:

Prages

02-20-2009, 07:22 PM

So, I'm not allowed to use an entry for 'the other one' for this one? :o

Maybe this would be a good time to work on that Boston cover you guys suggested a month or so back. :cool:

Prages

02-20-2009, 07:22 PM

I was just messin with ya. I couldnt hold up to your abilities :cool:

Bull.

It's all smoke an mirrors. I'm really good at polishing my turds in the studio. :o

Mark Wein

02-20-2009, 07:23 PM

So, I'm not allowed to use an entry for 'the other one' for this one? :o

Maybe this would be a good time to work on that Boston cover you guys suggested a month or so back. :cool:

Do eeet!

Prages

02-20-2009, 07:25 PM

Plus, I'd love to crank up your 5150. :o

Chihlidog

02-20-2009, 07:26 PM

Bull.

It's all smoke an mirrors. I'm really good at polishing my turds in the studio. :o

I'm a mediocre player at best, I SUCK at learning anything by ear, cant solo worth a darn, etc.

I AM gonna try to get something together for this but I only have my guitarport and reaper. My guitarport is pretty capable, but I am still utterly confused by it, and I havent made any progress with reaper.

Bah.

Chihlidog

02-20-2009, 07:27 PM

Plus, I'd love to crank up your 5150. :o

If it were actually cranked your dogs would run away and your roof might come down. cop0

Prages

02-20-2009, 07:28 PM

So, I'm not allowed to use an entry for 'the other one' for this one? :o

:facepalm:

I just saw the other thread. I thought you were calling Coverfest 'the other one'. :facepalm:

Prages

02-20-2009, 07:29 PM

If it were actually cranked your dogs would run away and your roof might come down. cop0

I once cranked my 100 watt JCM 800 2203 at home...for about 20 seconds. No structural damage, but I think I may be sterile now.

Phil513

02-20-2009, 07:31 PM

So, I'm not allowed to use an entry for 'the other one' for this one? :o

Maybe this would be a good time to work on that Boston cover you guys suggested a month or so back. :cool:

Yeah, that would be cool. After you mentioned it, i listened a bit more carefully to that bass line. Wow.

Chihlidog

02-20-2009, 07:31 PM

I once cranked my 100 watt JCM 800 2203 at home...for about 20 seconds. No structural damage, but I think I may be sterile now.

You couldnt pay me to try the 5150 past 5 or so. Seriously, I'm scared of it. :eek:

Mark Wein

02-20-2009, 07:38 PM

:facepalm:

I just saw the other thread. I thought you were calling Coverfest 'the other one'. :facepalm:

biggrin

I just want to have one "fest" for the guys who are just getting started with their recording gear and need a short term goal for their guitar playing. If You and Dexter and Grits all were throwing recordings into the same pool they probably wouldn't feel very comfortable posting their first attempts.

This will actually be my first project all on my own in a very long time with all new gear, but I'll post mine with the big boys :p

Prages

02-20-2009, 07:39 PM

You couldnt pay me to try the 5150 past 5 or so. Seriously, I'm scared of it. :eek:

An old high school friend of mine has one, and I've probably heard it up around 5 a couple of times. It was deafening.

That said, the JCM 800 I had was the loudest amp I've ever played through. It was literally useless to me because it went from dead quiet to so loud that it blurred your vision and took your breath away from 0 to 1 on the master volume knob. It really didn't get much louder past about 3 or 4, just more 'Marshally'. Unfortunately, by 3 or 4, it was impossible to be in the same room with the amp. I had it for about a year, and it never left my house because if I'd taken it to a gig, we'd have been thrown out by the end of the first song.

Dexter Inferno

02-20-2009, 07:40 PM

You couldnt pay me to try the 5150 past 5 or so. Seriously, I'm scared of it. :eek:

Even my ENGL 50 watter combo has never been past 5 - I'm afraid I'd do some serious damage if I'd attempt that :eek:

I'm contemplating using an original I'm working on btw. We'll see ;)

Chihlidog

02-20-2009, 07:41 PM

I really gotta get a demo of that 5150 together like I said I would. I just dont know what to play.:facepalm:

Prages

02-20-2009, 07:42 PM

Yeah, that would be cool. After you mentioned it, i listened a bit more carefully to that bass line. Wow.

Yeah, the bass line in that one is a bit...busy. :D

Chihlidog

02-20-2009, 07:46 PM

Which Boston song?

Phil513

02-20-2009, 07:47 PM

Which Boston song?

Peace of mind. Thats my fave boston song, and one of my fave songs of all time.

And yes, the bass line does not f'n let up.

Chihlidog

02-20-2009, 07:54 PM

Hmmmm...cant think of the bassline right now. Have to check it out when I get home.

Phil513

02-20-2009, 08:00 PM

cop0

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/tabs/b/boston/peace_of_mind_btab.htm

Prages

02-20-2009, 08:08 PM

cop0

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/tabs/b/boston/peace_of_mind_btab.htm

And it sounds even busier than it looks. :eek:

Chihlidog

02-20-2009, 08:10 PM

cop0

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/tabs/b/boston/peace_of_mind_btab.htm

Doesnt look that hard to play, but I gotta hear it. Soon as I get home I'll check it out.

Mrs.P

02-20-2009, 08:23 PM

Prages, you know you wanna let me roll down to your house and do a collaboration :p
Come on down. You're always welcome. Prages is always happy to play around upstairs

Chihlidog

02-20-2009, 08:25 PM

Come on down. You're always welcome. Prages is always happy to play around upstairs

He just wants me for my amp. :D

Prages

02-20-2009, 08:30 PM

Psychotronic

02-20-2009, 09:03 PM

I wish I had the time to do these coverfests with you guys....sounds like fun.

Mark Wein

02-20-2009, 09:08 PM

I wish I had the time to do these coverfests with you guys....sounds like fun.

It would be great to hear you...maybe you could collaborate with one of the guys?

stinkymommasboy

02-21-2009, 02:22 AM

I'm gonna give it a go. I'm not a pro, but I'm not a beginner so I'll be the sucky guy in the pro section.

Dexter Inferno

02-21-2009, 02:29 AM

I wish I had the time to do these coverfests with you guys....sounds like fun.

I've said it several times before - just ask.
And that goes for everyone.

Either me or Prages, or several other folks , can help you guys with drums, bass, vocals, whatever.

Don't be afraid to ask. :-)

Prages

02-21-2009, 04:11 AM

Mine is almost done. :o

Actually, I'm gonna use this one as a step by step thread. I've taken pics of all the stuff I used, and screen captures of most of the steps.

It's an original that I wrote for the first HC Songwriting Contest. I got my ass kicked, but I think it's a pretty fun song.

Dew Knot Hump

02-23-2009, 04:25 PM

You know who your are!

Same deal as the other one, but it just has to be something recorded for this particular event...cover song or original...it doesn't matter.

We'll have the reveal on Wednesday, April 1st so just have them in before then!

I don't think I'm going to have the time to do it, I've got about three weeks to polish up two 60 minute sets of originals before a gig and I've also gotta rehearse with another band I play with to tighten up a song we are going to be recording here:

http://www.walltowallrecording.com/studios.html

Chihlidog

02-26-2009, 01:17 AM

OK, I think I know what my project is going to be.....it's a well-known rock instrumental. Pretty ambitious for me, but I've got a month, and it is starting to come together. If I cant get it, I will post what I have come April 1st and you guys can laugh.....but it's a tune I've always wanted to do, it's ridiculous fun to play.

Mark Wein

02-26-2009, 01:45 AM

Chihlidog

02-26-2009, 02:42 AM

Totally_jammin_out

I might be in over my head on this one :o

Phil513

02-26-2009, 04:48 AM

I might be in over my head on this one :o

I sure can't wait to hear it. You rock dude.

Its not "Orion" is it? Do i win something? biggrin

Chihlidog

02-26-2009, 04:54 AM

I sure can't wait to hear it. You rock dude.

Its not "Orion" is it? Do i win something? biggrin

Haha, good guess. But no. I wouldnt do Metallica. I actually think I could do that one a lot easier than the one I'm working on, except for the funny timing on the chunking. But it wouldnt be as hard playing-wise.

Ronk

02-26-2009, 05:12 AM

I sure can't wait to hear it. You rock dude.

Its not "Orion" is it? Do i win something? biggrin

haha, I was thinking the same thing...I love that song.

Mrs.P

02-26-2009, 01:52 PM

Prages

02-26-2009, 02:02 PM

Eruption?

God, I love you. love0

Chihlidog

02-26-2009, 03:03 PM

Eruption?

Haha no. Nice guess. You'll find out April 1st. Even if I fail at the song, everyone will know what is is at least, it is very recognizeable.

Mrs.P

02-26-2009, 04:12 PM

God, I love you. love0biggrin

Denverdave

03-02-2009, 02:42 PM

We built this city??

:D

Kerouac

03-16-2009, 10:54 PM

Haha no. Nice guess. You'll find out April 1st. Even if I fail at the song, everyone will know what is is at least, it is very recognizeable.

Walk Don't Run!?!?! love0

telecaster911

03-18-2009, 11:19 PM

Green Onions :D

wait, Tequila :o

Mark Wein

03-19-2009, 12:08 AM

OK..Ive got my music done but I'm stuck for lyrics...

Prages

03-19-2009, 03:02 PM

I have nothing. :o

Mark Wein

03-19-2009, 03:04 PM

I just listened to my basic tracks here at home an my mix is terrible....this is my first time mixing anything intended for mp3 and its strange what happens to a mix when its compressed like this...

Prages

03-19-2009, 04:01 PM

You know, I never really notice much difference between my uncompressed wave files and my mp3s at 128 kbps. I mean, sometimes the cymbols get a few artifacts, but most of the time, unless I'm really, really listening for it, I don't even notice that.

Mark Wein

03-19-2009, 04:06 PM

Chihlidog

03-19-2009, 04:51 PM

Actually, I generally prefer the compressed file. Yes, some quality is lost but I normally hear less hum and unwanted noise in the MP3 than in the master file, so it's not really a bad thing for me.

Dexter Inferno

03-19-2009, 11:55 PM

:facepalm:

I don't know if I'll get anything done in time :o

I'm doing a comedy review show locally here, being in the band, and rehearsals/shows are each night up to and including next Sunday - starting tomorrow...

I may have to resort to maybe finishing up one that's half-done already, if that's ok :o

Mark Wein

03-25-2009, 04:45 PM

What do you guys think about doing the "Guys who have done this reveal" a day later so that we don't bust the anonymity of GJ Songwriting contest?

Prages

03-25-2009, 05:13 PM

What do you guys think about doing the "Guys who have done this reveal" a day later so that we don't bust the anonymity of GJ Songwriting contest?

Depending on how many entries I get, the songwriting contest could take a while. Last year it ran too long, lasting about 2 weeks. This year, I'm going to do my best to only do two rounds and a final. Last year was 4 rounds, a second chance round, and a final, with 3 days between each round.

Still though, if I can finish up my entry, I've still got a few days left to whip something up. I don't think we have any big plans this weekend, so anything's possible.

Denverdave

03-25-2009, 07:52 PM

Depending on how many entries I get, the songwriting contest could take a while. Last year it ran too long, lasting about 2 weeks. This year, I'm going to do my best to only do two rounds and a final. Last year was 4 rounds, a second chance round, and a final, with 3 days between each round.

Still though, if I can finish up my entry, I've still got a few days left to whip something up. I don't think we have any big plans this weekend, so anything's possible.

I will have to have some intense recording this weekend to get finished up. That and an armed guard at the door. My kids never knock or read signs that say 'Do Not Disturb - Recording in progress!!!!', they just barge in or bang on the door anyway...

Prages

03-25-2009, 08:06 PM

I will have to have some intense recording this weekend to get finished up. That and an armed guard at the door. My kids never knock or read signs that say 'Do Not Disturb - Recording in progress!!!!', they just barge in or bang on the door anyway...

My dogs do the same thing. :o

Mark Wein

03-27-2009, 01:52 AM

I think we'll push the reveal for this part of the fest back to April 10th so as to not conflict with the GJ contest....I'll put a sticky in the lounge, too...

Denverdave

03-27-2009, 04:19 AM

I got my drums, acoustic guitar and bass tracks recorded tonight. The drums are way too mechanical, but they are loops. I've got to figure out how to use the sequencer in either Ableton or Cubase for drums. I know you have to have a MIDI keyboard for the Cubase one, and I don't have it. The bass lines took way to many attempts to record, and I'm not getting the 'punch in' on my software to work right...

:HB:

I've got three guitar tracks and the vocals to finish by Sunday. And most of the lyrics.

Mark Wein

03-27-2009, 05:52 AM

are you using midi loops or are they wav files? If they are Midi I would think that you could alter them a little bit to fit your song...thats pretty much what I did with mine and it turned out OK...

Denverdave

03-27-2009, 04:29 PM

are you using midi loops or are they wav files? If they are Midi I would think that you could alter them a little bit to fit your song...thats pretty much what I did with mine and it turned out OK...

They are Acid loops from a CD 'drum sampler' I got with Ableton. You can 'play' loops in Ableton. There is also a drum sequencer in both Cubase and Ableton where you can alter a lot of stuff, but I don't have the keyboard for Cubase, and I don't have the time for this song to figure out Ableton.

I did the drum loop in Ableton and Rewired Ableton into Cubase, but I could not figure out from there how to get the loop to play in Cubase in the Rewire channel. So I just saved it as a .wav file and dropped it into Cubase that way. I am slowly figuring this stuff out. I am very at home in a analog studio situation because I did recording and production work for a couple of years, but that was before the digital revolution. I'm loving this, but have a ton of stuff to learn still.

Mark Wein

03-27-2009, 06:57 PM

They are Acid loops from a CD 'drum sampler' I got with Ableton. You can 'play' loops in Ableton. There is also a drum sequencer in both Cubase and Ableton where you can alter a lot of stuff, but I don't have the keyboard for Cubase, and I don't have the time for this song to figure out Ableton.

I did the drum loop in Ableton and Rewired Ableton into Cubase, but I could not figure out from there how to get the loop to play in Cubase in the Rewire channel. So I just saved it as a .wav file and dropped it into Cubase that way. I am slowly figuring this stuff out. I am very at home in a analog studio situation because I did recording and production work for a couple of years, but that was before the digital revolution. I'm loving this, but have a ton of stuff to learn still.

I'm in the same boat...learning all of this stuff has been a process for me, too. I have a little more insight into how to make it work from being around it but actually doing it is another story....

Kerouac

03-27-2009, 07:07 PM

Later tonight I'm going to spend sometime working on my back bedroom studio. I've been having a hard time getting everything set-up since I moved my main rig down to the academy and my home recordings have really suffered from it. I'll have to buckle down and just get things hooked up right and sensibly instead of just scattered around.

Mark Wein

03-27-2009, 07:20 PM

Organizing stuff has always been the biggest PITA for me....having my current setup eliminated the need for that, though....

Kerouac

03-27-2009, 07:29 PM

Organizing stuff has always been the biggest PITA for me....having my current setup eliminated the need for that, though....

On paper this is pretty easy:

Guitar > NI Rig Kontrol and M*Audio Controller > iMac > Monitors (out through Rig Kontrol)

But I've gotta clean up the space, get all the books, notebooks, backup CDs, etc ready, HD's, clean up extra crap from before the computer was mine and worst of all, learn how to use Logic. :HB:

Denverdave

03-27-2009, 09:07 PM

I have about a 6' x 4' studio space. I have a desk in the corner of the bedroom. I keep wacking the dresser behind me with the chair and/or the guitars. I mike the amp in the closet so the clothing absorbs the volume and I don't get too loud when people are home...

Prages

03-30-2009, 01:29 PM

My studio space is about 15' x 34'. :o

I just crank the stuff and go for it. :o :o

I've had neighbors 100 yards away tell me they can hear me playing when they go into their yard. :o :o :o

Prages

03-30-2009, 01:32 PM

Oh, and I started a new cover song yesterday. I almost got it finished up. I may redo the guitars though, and I still need to do vocals and add a few percussion things.

Prages

03-31-2009, 11:17 AM

I'm listening to the cover song I'm working on for this. I think I have captured the best guitar tone I've ever managed to create...at least for this particular song.

I just cranked the shit out of the Bassman and threw the DD in front of it for some added grit. Used my Edwards LP and my Gibson LP.

It's pretty massive. :o

Mark Wein

03-31-2009, 01:37 PM

SCHWEET!

Did you get a chance to listen to what I sent you? I might have time this afternoon to fix it....

Prages

03-31-2009, 01:41 PM

SCHWEET!

Did you get a chance to listen to what I sent you? I might have time this afternoon to fix it....

Yeah, I gave it a quick listen this morning. Sounds good. I can tell it's right at the top of your vocal range, but it sounds good to me.

Mark Wein

03-31-2009, 01:57 PM

Yeah, I gave it a quick listen this morning. Sounds good. I can tell it's right at the top of your vocal range, but it sounds good to me.

Thanks...I'm starting to get sick, but I think if I warm up this morning I'll sound a little more comfortable singing that high. The vocals were supposed to be me trying something and working the lyrics out but I might be stuck with them if I get busy this afternoon. The sound is terribly boxy, too...you can actually hear the ceiling reflections. :facepalm:

Denverdave

03-31-2009, 05:34 PM

The sound is terribly boxy, too...you can actually hear the ceiling reflections. :facepalm:

I sing (literally) in our clothes closet. It is right next to my desk where my laptop sits. Sound wise it is very, very dead with all the clothes hanging up and a carpeted floor....

Mark Wein

03-31-2009, 05:36 PM

I sing (literally) in our clothes closet. It is right next to my desk where my laptop sits. Sound wise it is very, very dead with all the clothes hanging up and a carpeted floor....

my office doesn't really have a closet like that. I'm going to try and do it in the lobby where the ceilings are a smidge higher but they are acoustic drop ceiling and the room is much larger.

Prages

03-31-2009, 06:16 PM

The ceiling in my studio is only about 7 feet tall.

Luckily, it's an oddly shaped room, so it doesn't really sound boxy.

Mark Wein

03-31-2009, 06:20 PM

The ceiling in my studio is only about 7 feet tall.

Luckily, it's an oddly shaped room, so it doesn't really sound boxy.

Mine is a square drywall box. It might as well be a raquetball court. :facepalm:

telecaster911

04-03-2009, 10:23 PM

Prages, you have a PM:aok:

Prages

04-07-2009, 10:35 AM

I just finished mixing and mastering my final entry. I'll get it PMed later this morning. I also got Tele's vocals done, though they are kind of rough, but I think they'll do. I'll send you those tracks later this morning too.

telecaster911

04-07-2009, 08:54 PM

Got em, thanks:aok:

Prages

04-09-2009, 02:02 PM

Mark, I've redone a bunch of stuff in the last of my entries. The URL should be the same though.

Mark Wein

04-09-2009, 02:04 PM

Ok! I'll put out a notice to remind people....

MattSkibaIsGOD

04-09-2009, 03:49 PM

who doth we send our files to?

Phil513

04-09-2009, 03:51 PM

who doth we send our files to?

I think just send them to Mark here at Premiere Music.

Mark Wein

04-09-2009, 03:51 PM

who doth we send our files to?

You can send them to premiermusic@sbcglobal.net or PM a URL if you want...either way works!

And welcome! wave0

MattSkibaIsGOD

04-09-2009, 03:51 PM

Thanks fellas

Dexter Inferno

04-09-2009, 05:05 PM

Regretfully I won't have anything ready for this one :o

Maybe a late entry next week perhaps....

Denverdave

04-09-2009, 05:11 PM

I'm just using my entry from the HC contest. I'd do some touch up on it, but I am gone most of the night tonight (book club meeting....).

Dexter Inferno

04-09-2009, 05:16 PM

I'm just using my entry from the HC contest. I'd do some touch up on it, but I am gone most of the night tonight (book club meeting....).

Yeah, I guess I could use that one :o

Mark Wein

04-09-2009, 06:09 PM

Thats what I'm doing...the main reason we put it off was so that you guys could post in both....

Dexter Inferno

04-09-2009, 06:13 PM

Thats what I'm doing...the main reason we put it off was so that you guys could post in both....

Just got an idea...I could post a song from the cd we're working on with Wasted, just got done mixing that one a couple of months ago. That one hasn't been posted anywhere else yet. I guess that's ok? ;)

Phil513

04-09-2009, 06:18 PM

Just got an idea...I could post a song from the cd we're working on with Wasted, just got done mixing that one a couple of months ago. That one hasn't been posted anywhere else yet. I guess that's ok? ;)

Thats got my vote, i'd LOVE to hear it. :aok:

Dexter Inferno

04-09-2009, 06:19 PM

Thats got my vote, i'd LOVE to hear it. :aok:

I'll do that one :-)

Mark Wein

04-09-2009, 06:35 PM

Dexter Inferno

04-09-2009, 06:37 PM

That would be awesome! Do you want me to link to your contest entry, too?

Sure, that would be great :-)

I'll PM you the urls, just have to upload the Wasted tune first ;)

Mark Wein

04-09-2009, 06:55 PM

Cool!

Dexter Inferno

04-09-2009, 07:22 PM

PM sent :-)

MattSkibaIsGOD

04-09-2009, 07:53 PM

Almost done recording. Are multiple entries allowed?

Mark Wein

04-09-2009, 08:03 PM

Almost done recording. Are multiple entries allowed?

I think we can spin 2-3 per guy....:-)

MattSkibaIsGOD

04-09-2009, 08:05 PM

Killer. I'll get them to you in a couple hours.

Phil513

04-09-2009, 08:18 PM

This is awesome.

:houra:

MattSkibaIsGOD

04-09-2009, 11:31 PM

They're done and sent. Can't wait for the reveal.

Phil513

04-10-2009, 12:50 AM

They're done and sent. Can't wait for the reveal.

Ditto. This homegrown stuff, especially all you really skilled guys are coming up with, is breathing new life into music for me. Popular stuff nowadays seems like a wasteland.

MattSkibaIsGOD

04-10-2009, 01:34 AM

Ditto. This homegrown stuff, especially all you really skilled guys are coming up with, is breathing new life into music for me. Popular stuff nowadays seems like a wasteland.

I agree. This will be the first stuff I've heard here, but I have most of the music forumites at HC have posted on either my computer or my MP3 player. It's really fun to hear what other people are doing.

hobo

04-10-2009, 01:40 AM

I agree. This will be the first stuff I've heard here, but I have most of the music forumites at HC have posted on either my computer or my MP3 player. It's really fun to hear what other people are doing.

just listened to your stuff

good lyrics and nice guitar playing there

hobo

MattSkibaIsGOD

04-10-2009, 01:55 AM

just listened to your stuff

good lyrics and nice guitar playing there

hobo

Thank you very much Hobo.

Suhnton

04-10-2009, 01:56 AM

Hobo Uncle Sam, I noticed you're located in Japan. That makes two of us.

P.S: Mark, I think I'll PM a link to another older song I have. The mix is not very pretty, and the vox are rubbish, but since everyone else is putting up multiple songs, I may as well be a lemming and follow suit.