Guitar Pic of the Day - 1.20.09

[Help!I'maRock!]

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Year: 1990 (Circa)
ManufacturerName Steinberger
ModelName GM
Case: Original Hard
Color: White
Condition: Excellent
Price: $1,450.00
Description: STEINBERGER GM STrem, white, Strat® body, graphite headless neck, 2 single coil pickups and one humbucker, regular Steinberger tremelo

[Denverdave]

Meh....

I have never played a original Steinberger, but I heard they do play very well. I know that the bigger body style was originally designed for Mike Rutherford of Genesis. He loved the Steinbergers, but thought the bodies were too small, so they made one with a bigger body for him, and later for general production. They have always sounded a bit generic to me in the recordings I have with them one them. Not a tone that appealed much to me.

[Help!I'maRock!]

what exactly is "generic tone"?

[Denverdave]

what exactly is "generic tone"?


Kind of hard to describe because all tone is pretty subjective. It just seemed to lack any distinctive character. It is almost too consistent. Daryl Steurmer used the Steinberger quite a bit in the early/mid 80's and when I hear his solos from Phil Collins solo albums, his on solo work at the time, and from live Genesis recordings at that time (he played guitar/bass on tour) the tone sounds like it was all recorded in the same session - it's identical. Mike Rutherford's tone is nearly the same as well from the same time period. I know that was one of the big selling points of the guitars - incredible consistency in tone from guitar to guitar, but it is not something I like personally. It's not a bad thing though...

[Prages]

I've always wanted to try a Trans Trem guitar, but I really don't care for the looks of Steinbergers.

[Help!I'maRock!]

what exactly is "generic tone"?


Kind of hard to describe because all tone is pretty subjective. It just seemed to lack any distinctive character. It is almost too consistent. Daryl Steurmer used the Steinberger quite a bit in the early/mid 80's and when I hear his solos from Phil Collins solo albums, his on solo work at the time, and from live Genesis recordings at that time (he played guitar/bass on tour) the tone sounds like it was all recorded in the same session - it's identical. Mike Rutherford's tone is nearly the same as well from the same time period. I know that was one of the big selling points of the guitars - incredible consistency in tone from guitar to guitar, but it is not something I like personally. It's not a bad thing though...


how can it lack distinctive character when that consistency is the distinctive character, and its unmistakeable who you're listening to?

[Mark Wein]

never been that interested in them...

[JModius1972]

I'd give one a whirl. If for no other reason then just to say I have. AOK

[Denverdave]

how can it lack distinctive character when that consistency is the distinctive character, and its unmistakeable who you're listening to?


Good point. I'm really not sure how to describe what I don't like about it - maybe that the guitar's own tone tends to overpower the players personality the other guitars allow to come through more.

[Help!I'maRock!]

how can it lack distinctive character when that consistency is the distinctive character, and its unmistakeable who you're listening to?


Good point. I'm really not sure how to describe what I don't like about it - maybe that the guitar's own tone tends to overpower the players personality the other guitars allow to come through more.


i've never found a guitar that does this.

[Phil513]

Im curious about them. I'd try one. I dont really gets the advantage of getting rid of the headstock. idn_smilie

[Help!I'maRock!]

Im curious about them. I'd try one. I dont really gets the advantage of getting rid of the headstock. idn_smilie


double ball end strings allow for shorter tuning time, and greater stability. since you don't need to attach the string to a tuning peg at the headstock, it can be eliminated.

[Phil513]

Im curious about them. I'd try one. I dont really gets the advantage of getting rid of the headstock. idn_smilie


double ball end strings allow for shorter tuning time, and greater stability. since you don't need to attach the string to a tuning peg at the headstock, it can be eliminated.


I get it. Eliminates a variable.